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Nov 07, 2010 15:13 |  #1

20" Aluminum Cinema Display (external link) or the 23" Cinema Display HD (external link)?


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Nov 07, 2010 19:38 |  #2

It would depend on price, time used (age) and condition. They're both S-IPS, good quality screens, but the 23" screen is getting long in the tooth. If it was released toward the end of it's service life and the 20" screen toward the beginning, then they would be only months apart and age would not be such a big factor. So, it would come down to condition and price.




  
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Nov 07, 2010 19:45 |  #3

MaxxuM wrote in post #11243007 (external link)
It would depend on price, time used (age) and condition. They're both S-IPS, good quality screens, but the 23" screen is getting long in the tooth. If it was released toward the end of it's service life and the 20" screen toward the beginning, then they would be only months apart and age would not be such a big factor. So, it would come down to condition and price.

Gotcha. On craigslist, the 23" is going for ~$150 and the 20" is ~$300. Maybe I should look for a new budget screen... or would the 20" still be a better display that the newer <$300 displays?


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Nov 07, 2010 20:03 |  #4

If the 23" is in really good shape, $150 is a good price, but typically they're really well used and dimming by now. :( You can look at these screens listed below. They're excellent monitors and withing your $300 price range.

Dell UltraSharp U2211H
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HP ZR22w
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Nov 08, 2010 05:57 |  #5

The first. Second uses an ADC (Apple Display Connector). One of Apples bigger mistakes IMO.
You'll either need an older Mac with ADC port (My G5 has one, I have a similar screen ;)), or a (hard to find & expensive) dvi to adc adapter (external link).
http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Apple_Display_C​onnector (external link)


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Nov 08, 2010 08:03 |  #6

MaxxuM wrote in post #11243178 (external link)
If the 23" is in really good shape, $150 is a good price, but typically they're really well used and dimming by now. :(

LCDs don't dim as they are used. Instead, they lose contrast and gamut (the image becomes grayish) and given enough time can also develop a color shift, since each sub-pixel color degrades at a different rate.

It's the phosphor based displays - CRTs and Plasmas - that dim with use.

Also, the Dell U2x11h monitors have a color cast to them, and shouldn't be used for color-critical work unless you've got a colorimeter/spectropho​tometer to calibrate it with.




  
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Nov 08, 2010 08:48 |  #7

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LCDs don't dim as they are used.

False: The (CCFL) backlighting does dim over time.

Also: Any monitor should be calibrated for color critical work...


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Nov 08, 2010 14:02 |  #8

René Damkot wrote in post #11245826 (external link)
False: The (CCFL) backlighting does dim over time.

Also: Any monitor should be calibrated for color critical work...

The cost of replacing the CCFLs is next to nothing (I've done it). When the headlight of your car goes out, do you replace the entire headlight or just the bulb? Exactly ;)

And yeah, those were a bad choice of words. I basically mean that you're shooting yourself in the leg if you don't calibrate it, even if you're just trying to print some snapshots that your uncle took (or whatever). While with most other monitors you can usually get away without calibration if you really had to.




  
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Nov 08, 2010 14:25 |  #9

Avoid the oldest Cinemas, like the 23" you're looking at. Either buy the aluminum models or buy another brand.

Last time I checked eBay, 23" al Cinemas were selling for around $300-350. Not sure if that includes shipping, though.




  
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