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Canon 5DmkII, 7D, 1DmkIV, 550D/T2i Rebel against 35mm film

 
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Nov 08, 2010 03:18 |  #1

Zacuto wins the EMMY Award for "The Great Camera Shootout 2010" (external link)
The three part web series where HD DSLRs fought against legendary 35mm Film,
showcasing the top performing hybrid HD-DSLR cameras like the Canon 5D MKII, 7D, 1D, 550D/T2i Rebel, etc,
comparing the image quality against the gold standard of 35mm film.

Read the full article (external link) & watch the 3 amazing episodes (external link) that gave Zacuto the EMMY.

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Nov 08, 2010 12:45 |  #2

Great series, I remember watching when they first came out. Very interesting how each camera excelled in it's own way rather than 1 camera leading the way in all aspects.




  
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Nov 08, 2010 14:21 |  #3

Just finished episode 1. Very, very interesting so far, whether you do digital video or not.




  
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Nov 08, 2010 14:57 |  #4

Still too bad that all current DSLRs and even the new Panasonic AF100 use 8-bit 4:2:0 long-gop mpeg compression. It's ok if you get the look right in camera, but starts to fall apart if you do any greenscreen, grading and/or effects.
If Panny also threw in AVCintra/P2 as standard on the AF100, made it a full-size cam and given it a proper video lens, more than a few people would be all over it, myself included.


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Nov 08, 2010 15:41 |  #5

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #11248033 (external link)
Still too bad that all current DSLRs and even the new Panasonic AF100 use 8-bit 4:2:0 long-gop mpeg compression. It's ok if you get the look right in camera, but starts to fall apart if you do any greenscreen, grading and/or effects.
If Panny also threw in AVCintra/P2 as standard on the AF100, made it a full-size cam and given it a proper video lens, more than a few people would be all over it, myself included.

You're safer if you wrap it with Cineform or proress aren't you? At least you're dealing with 444/422




  
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Nov 08, 2010 15:55 |  #6

benesotor wrote in post #11248256 (external link)
You're safer if you wrap it with Cineform or proress aren't you? At least you're dealing with 444/422

But that's kind of like converting an 8-bit jpeg into a 16-bit tiff isn't it? Maybe you get a bit more wiggle room in post, but if the original data wasn't captured, it doesn't exist.

Not saying everyone needs to do 300-style effects, but it would be nice to shoot a neutral image and then choose a "look" in post and not worry about artifacts.


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Nov 08, 2010 16:12 |  #7

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #11248337 (external link)
But that's kind of like converting an 8-bit jpeg into a 16-bit tiff isn't it? Maybe you get a bit more wiggle room in post, but if the original data wasn't captured, it doesn't exist.

Not saying everyone needs to do 300-style effects, but it would be nice to shoot a neutral image and then choose a "look" in post and not worry about artifacts.

Oh no I realise that it's still being smashed down by the 8bit compression. It's just working in prores/cineform 422 does seem to be a better starting point for post.

I'm waiting for RAW video :p




  
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Nov 08, 2010 18:13 |  #8

excellent comparison. everybody is out there fighting to produce the best dynamic range now. canon is rumor to have dynamic range like RED, ~20stops.

I believe, as soon as digital becomes more powerful w/ dynamic range where it comes to human's eye, film will be obsolete.




  
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Nov 12, 2010 10:35 |  #9

hey guys can someone tell me what lens would be the best to film moving objects susch as kiteboarding i will buy a 550 D with 10-22mm wide angel but need a zoom lens with it which one would be the best ? thx




  
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Nov 12, 2010 21:04 |  #10

jahsteez wrote in post #11271577 (external link)
hey guys can someone tell me what lens would be the best to film moving objects susch as kiteboarding i will buy a 550 D with 10-22mm wide angel but need a zoom lens with it which one would be the best ? thx

The 10-22mm is a zoom lens.




  
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