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Nov 09, 2010 18:29 |  #16

Ah, but he says he is printing directly from the camera to the printer, which is why I was asking my questions -- he seems to be one of those folks who actually use the Direct Print button. He says he has a new HP PC, which would use Win7, and may be hooked up to the TV as an external monitor (unless he's plugging the video outlet from the camera to the TV) but until he gets back to us with info we will be in the dark about his actual setup.


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Nov 09, 2010 19:44 as a reply to  @ post 11255022 |  #17

i couldnt find any printer profiles on canon..i downloaded the newest up to date drivers..but it didnt make a difference. I printed directly from the camera to the printer, without the computer..it still was dark. But maybe it was the camera display. I just want to get back to maybe a regular monitor that i can work on my pictures more properly. This tv is really great for movies off the computer, but ive never been so frustrated with trying to work on darker pictures with my setup. My Camera is the Canon Ti and my printer Canon Pixma Pro9000. I have an Hp desktop with Windows Vista. I used the startup cds that came with Camera and Printer...and on my old computers thats all i had to do..this is the first time ive had to deal with this..




  
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Nov 09, 2010 20:28 as a reply to  @ skinnyboy's post |  #18

Hello Skinnyboy,

If you print directly from the cam it should be close enough to be considered good.
The only way to screw the colors is with the color space, I am right now travelling so I cannot test it, what happens when you take a picture in adope RGB. Does the printer adjust to this when you use direct print?
The safest way would be to set the color space to sRGB and JPG.
Then the picture should be about the same as on the lcd on the camera.
My guess is that your print head is clogged up, if one or more colors are missing the whole picture gets out of control. It can look pretty ugly in this case.
Just go to your printer settings on the computer and find the “ckeck print head or check nozzels”
Something like this. If necessary after the check, clean the head and I am sure the colors will look a lot like what you see on the cam lcd.
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Nov 09, 2010 21:59 |  #19

skinnyboy wrote in post #11255793 (external link)
i couldnt find any printer profiles on canon..i downloaded the newest up to date drivers..but it didnt make a difference. I printed directly from the camera to the printer, without the computer..it still was dark. But maybe it was the camera display. I just want to get back to maybe a regular monitor that i can work on my pictures more properly. This tv is really great for movies off the computer, but ive never been so frustrated with trying to work on darker pictures with my setup. My Camera is the Canon Ti and my printer Canon Pixma Pro9000. I have an Hp desktop with Windows Vista. I used the startup cds that came with Camera and Printer...and on my old computers thats all i had to do..this is the first time ive had to deal with this..

OK, start with the Direct Print thing -- did you note my advice to do some testing using the Histogram to judge and adjust the exposure/brightness of your photo and then try prints at various exposures and check and compare?

I'm saying this because the LCD brightness of a camera is often brighter than the real image, and you really want to use the histogram as the "ruler" for the brightness of your exposure. So then you can test this with a print. If the exposure shows a bright "center-right" histogram but your prints come out dark then there may be something in the printer that is not right (have you looked for software controls?).

And yeah, a flat screen TV will tend to be bright for movies and games and so too much for good photo editing. So if you can't get good results turning the brightness down at least while you are doing photo work on your computer, you'll have to get an idea from testing as to how to brighten your photos to get a good print.

Sorry for the frustrations!


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Nov 09, 2010 23:55 |  #20

When I calibrated my LCD TV using my iOneD2, HCFR and HD test patterns displayed by my Blu-ray player, I found that the results most closely matched the "Movie" mode of my Vizio presets. Not that this applies to the OP's TV, but give it a shot and see if, when you open an image on your computer and view it on the TV, your print direct from the camera to the printer is close to the image displayed on the TV in Movie mode. That is, see if Movie mode gets you an image that, without calibration, is close to the reference print generated from DirectPrint or whatever the camera-to-printer pipeline is called. If you are using a Canon printer and a Canon camera, shouldn't this direct-to-print pipeline be somewhat color managed and a reference for starters....?

Since we're flying by the seat of our pants here....

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Nov 10, 2010 09:26 |  #21

skinnyboy wrote in post #11255793 (external link)
i couldnt find any printer profiles on canon..i downloaded the newest up to date drivers..but it didnt make a difference...

You should already have printer profiles installed on your system:
C:/Windows/system32/sp​ool/drivers/color

This page says new profiles for the 9000 mkII will be coming soon:

http://usa.canon.com …ctLineAct&produ​ctLineID=1 (external link)


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Nov 24, 2010 19:58 |  #22

ok skinnyboy,
what happened??
did you burn your printer?
did you sell your camera??
or did you just give up printing at all?

let us know


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Nov 24, 2010 21:49 |  #23

skinnyboy wrote in post #11246005 (external link)
I have been trying relentlessly to figure out what is the problem item here. Ive never had problems with this with my past canon cameras or printers. I have have a Canon T1 Camera and a Canon Pro9000 Printer. Im using a 1080 LG LCD tv as a Monitor. I cannot print one picture that looks like anything on my camera or my monitor. They come out horribly dark and the color is from two different worlds. Ive tried messing with the tvs color controls till i get close to the picture that spits out of the printer..but then you cant even see things on the monitor. So im trying to figure out if its the Camera or printer thats screwing up. I was going to try to bring an SD card to a place and have them print out a pic..to make sure its not the camera..any suggestions?

Trying to print with CS5? If so, download Canon's "Easy-Photo Print Pro." This plugin is free, and its installer places it under the "Automate" menu. Once installed, launch CS5, look under the "Automate" menu for the plugin. Make any changes you want to the printer settings, and don't let PhotoShop control the print job, but your printer.

Also, if you don't use CS5: Your printer should have come with some software that instals the drivers, and "Easy-Photo Print EX." Install this software, but go to the Canon website and download/install the latest updates to replace the newly installed software. Easy-Photo Print EX is a standalone application for printing anything you want, and has a very neat feature: a "Vivid" button you can checkmark to make the photos look a lot more vivid than having to mess around with PhotoShop.

I gave up on CS5 trying to find the right profile every time I change paper or printers. It takes too much time, paper, and ink. While this is my favorite application for PP my photos, for printing I prefer the Canon software since it gives me a lot more options relating to paper types, and a lot more options on photo sizes from passport size to the largest size the Pro 9000 mark II can handle, borderless or not.

Ooops! Edit: You are trying to print straight from the camera? Why not processing the photos with PS Elements 8 (came with your printer), and then print from Elements? in fact I would shoot RAW, process these with Elements, and then print from there, not the camera. I believe that the Canon plugin works with Elements, too.


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