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Nov 12, 2010 04:57 |  #1

Just curious to hear if anyone has taken the $3500+ plunge into the latest dual-processor Xeon ("Gulftown") processors yet....and what kind of benchmarks you're getting CS or Lightroom.

I've been looking for some reviews but so far all the of Gulftown reviews I've read are for Windows' users! I can't find anything for the dual-Xeons yet on the August 2010 Mac Pros.


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Nov 12, 2010 06:17 |  #2

I have a purchase request in for the 12 core machine. But it'll be for DNA sequencing and gene annotation work.


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Nov 12, 2010 07:01 |  #3

BeritOlam wrote in post #11270349 (external link)
I've been looking for some reviews but so far all the of Gulftown reviews I've read are for Windows' users! I can't find anything for the dual-Xeons yet.

Lloyd Chambers has a few pages about it: http://macperformanceg​uide.com …opics.html#MacP​roWestmere (external link)

Might want to take a few grains of salt with that. ;)


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Nov 12, 2010 11:05 |  #4

My workstations at home and work are Xeon W3680's (6-cores, 3.33GHz) and are just plain awesome at everything they do. Most apps are not threaded enough to use 12 cores so I'd probably either go with a single 6-core CPU or a pair of 4-core CPUs to keep the cost down. You're probably better off with a few fewer cores that run at a faster speed.

That said, there are some apps that will take advantage of high core counts. I just put in a pair of new servers at work for virtualization with 32 cores each (4 L7555 CPUs, 8 cores per, 256GB of RAM) and at a job a few years back we had similar setups for physics simulations. It takes a lot of effort to make software that parallel (and not all workflows support it) and Adobe just hasn't gotten there yet.


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Nov 13, 2010 01:08 |  #5

No point going for any of the dual-processor options since hardly any photo software scales well past 4 cores.




  
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Nov 13, 2010 02:39 |  #6

jasonlitka wrote in post #11271760 (external link)
My workstations at home and work are Xeon W3680's (6-cores, 3.33GHz) and are just plain awesome at everything they do. Most apps are not threaded enough to use 12 cores so I'd probably either go with a single 6-core CPU or a pair of 4-core CPUs to keep the cost down. You're probably better off with a few fewer cores that run at a faster speed.

That said, there are some apps that will take advantage of high core counts. I just put in a pair of new servers at work for virtualization with 32 cores each (4 L7555 CPUs, 8 cores per, 256GB of RAM) and at a job a few years back we had similar setups for physics simulations. It takes a lot of effort to make software that parallel (and not all workflows support it) and Adobe just hasn't gotten there yet.

So I am looking at making the switch to MAC's and I am debating between the 6 core 3.33 mhz and the 2 processor 4 core 2.24 mhz, my primary uses will be Photoshop, Lightroom and a yet to be determined video editing app for the 5D MKII videos, I wil be installing 16 gig of RAM so where will i get the best bang for the buck with this software compliment the 8 cores or the faster 6 core ?

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Nov 13, 2010 03:09 |  #7

All I have at home is a laptop with Pentium D :(
someday i'll have a quadcore... Someday....


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Nov 13, 2010 03:58 |  #8

mjryan67 wrote in post #11275935 (external link)
So I am looking at making the switch to MAC's and I am debating between the 6 core 3.33 mhz and the 2 processor 4 core 2.24 mhz, my primary uses will be Photoshop, Lightroom and a yet to be determined video editing app for the 5D MKII videos, I wil be installing 16 gig of RAM so where will i get the best bang for the buck with this software compliment the 8 cores or the faster 6 core ?

Thanks,

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6. It has more total processing (18.08 vs 19.98 ) and more singled-threaded (2.26 vs 3.33) speed, so there is no question. I assume you meant 2.26 since there is no 2.24 model. The same still applies if you were thinking about the current 2.4 8-core. The only drawback is that the single-processor models have 4 memory slots instead of 8, but I think that's a minor issue.

Finally, MAC means Media Access Control. Mac is short for Macintosh.




  
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Nov 13, 2010 04:16 |  #9

I'm still rocking a C2D MBP with only 4Gb ram. If I can survive on that, you'll be fine with only a 8core Mac Pro ^_^


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Nov 13, 2010 09:35 |  #10

I have the hexacore. Boosted the RAM, added an SSD and a couple of drives, and it absolutely screams. I use it for photo editing, some video work, and will shortly get rocking with the digital audio/multitrack stuff.


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Nov 13, 2010 13:28 |  #11

toxic wrote in post #11276071 (external link)
6. It has more total processing (18.08 vs 19.98 ) and more singled-threaded (2.26 vs 3.33) speed, so there is no question. I assume you meant 2.26 since there is no 2.24 model. The same still applies if you were thinking about the current 2.4 8-core. The only drawback is that the single-processor models have 4 memory slots instead of 8, but I think that's a minor issue.

Finally, MAC means Media Access Control. Mac is short for Macintosh.

Sorry it was late when I typed this and the B & H website listed it at 2.4 mhz not the 2.24 that I typed ....




  
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Nov 13, 2010 13:32 |  #12

BeritOlam wrote in post #11270349 (external link)
Just curious to hear if anyone has taken the $3500+ plunge into the latest dual-processor Xeon ("Gulftown") processors yet....and what kind of benchmarks you're getting CS or Lightroom.

I've been looking for some reviews but so far all the of Gulftown reviews I've read are for Windows' users! I can't find anything for the dual-Xeons yet on the August 2010 Mac Pros.

I haven't seen any Mac Pros with the Gulftown yet is it coming or have they announced it and I just missed it ? What are the supposed improvements ?




  
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Nov 14, 2010 08:42 |  #13

Gulftown = Westmere on the apple site:
http://www.apple.com …o/features/proc​essor.html (external link)


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Nov 14, 2010 10:58 |  #14

Gulftown is just a type of Westmere processor. Westmere is the microarchitecture, Gulftown is the specific processor.




  
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Nov 14, 2010 21:48 |  #15

toxic wrote in post #11281877 (external link)
Gulftown is just a type of Westmere processor. Westmere is the microarchitecture, Gulftown is the specific processor.

Thank Rene and Toxic ! Appreciate the nugget of knowledge !




  
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