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Nov 15, 2010 17:14 |  #1

Saw this pic on speedhunter.com (external link) a couple of weeks back...

http://ll.speedhunters​.com …03/2010%20PLM%2​003/34.jpg (external link)

which reminded me of an old Ferrari print I have sitting in the back of the closet... minus the scratches from the broken glass.

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Was wondering how these were shot... Any ideas.

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Nov 15, 2010 21:42 |  #2

thattunut wrote in post #11290033 (external link)
Was wondering how these were shot... Any ideas.

With a stop-and-start panning motion: you need to be both good and lucky to pull this off. I have one of an F1 McLaren that's the opposite of this shot - instead of long and stretched out mine is compressed into a short wedge.


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Nov 16, 2010 04:09 |  #3

thattunut wrote in post #11290033 (external link)
Saw this pic on speedhunter.com (external link) a couple of weeks back...

http://ll.speedhunters​.com …03/2010%20PLM%2​003/34.jpg (external link)

which reminded me of an old Ferrari print I have sitting in the back of the closet... minus the scratches from the broken glass.

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Was wondering how these were shot... Any ideas.

Ferrari shot was achieved by attaching a filter to the lens that distorted the rear half of the shot. Can't recall what the filter was called, Speed or something equally corny.

It was all the rage in the late 70's and early 80's to try this kind of filter effect......I have some shockingly bad shots in the files from that time, not a patch on the Pironi at Monaco shot in the frame.

As to McNish in the Audi, it is a simple panning shot, not sure what is meant by stop start comment, never heard of it myself. Manual focus, manual exposure and old man shooting it. Of course it was a bit hit and miss out there but a few others also came out:

http://ll.speedhunters​.com …03/2010%20PLM%2​001/29.jpg (external link)




  
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Nov 16, 2010 04:38 |  #4

Photoshop it :-)


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Nov 16, 2010 09:08 |  #5

Its done with a film technique called Streak and strip photography where both the Film and the Subject are moving, The first section of the film is exposed and the image is panned to give a sharp image, the pan is then slowed down or stopped so that the subject passes through the frame as the rest of the film is exposed giving this long elongated movement look.

There are some really in depth articles about it, But I can't find them anywhere


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Nov 16, 2010 10:08 |  #6

Zilly wrote in post #11293765 (external link)
Its done with a film technique called Streak and strip photography where both the Film and the Subject are moving, The first section of the film is exposed and the image is panned to give a sharp image, the pan is then slowed down or stopped so that the subject passes through the frame as the rest of the film is exposed giving this long elongated movement look.

There are some really in depth articles about it, But I can't find them anywhere

Really?

I can only go on memory with regards to the Ferrari filter shot but we used to use all manner of devices to get what we imagined to be cutting edge snaps, by and large they look dated in these Photoshop times. The filter as I recall was clear on the front half and with some sort rounded glass on the back half of the frame. I know I have some F1 shots from 81/82 with this effect...............n​ot to the standard of the poster.

Panning is of course when both camera and subject are moving together to create the impression of speed, quite how one would be able to pan for half a frame and stop to create this effect is beyond my imagination. Certainly I don't think even the greats like Schlegelmilch or Asset could achieve this result but I would be pleased to be proved wrong. In context of fast moving F1 cars and manual camera systems (the shot dating from 1983 at Monza) it would be an amazing feat to pull it off, maybe panning using a gimbal head that was prevented from fully tracking the exposure. The capacity for creating unintended camera shake is limitless........inter​esting though.

With a little light Googling I came up with this :

http://encyclopedia.jr​ank.org …nd-Strip-Photography.html (external link)

http://people.rit.edu …ing-imaging-overview.html (external link)

neither of which appear to give the same effect as in the Ferrari shot

However, I can be a little more certain that the Audi image is just a straightforward pan.




  
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Nov 16, 2010 10:29 as a reply to  @ SpeedHunter's post |  #7

I'd forgotten about those (gimmicky) filters - thanks for the trip down memory lane!

As for the exotic panning technique, the following is from "Cars & Cameras: putting them all together" which is a booklet published by Minolta when they were the official camera of the Vels Parnelli Jones Indycar team in the early 1970s.
"The half-blurred half-focused race car. An even more skillful maneuver is necessary to turn a race car into a blur that's still partially in recognizable focus. Panning is the basic approach. However, as you fire, suddenly slow the pan down then speed it up. The shutter speed you'll need will have to be slower than you'd normally use for panning to fit this maneuver into the time the lens remains open. And then you've got to remember to follow through. Impossible - almost. But half the fun is trying."


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Nov 16, 2010 10:33 |  #8

Solution:

Cokin P filter "Super Speed" or "Speed"

link here (external link) Just scroll down.




  
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Nov 17, 2010 03:33 |  #9

aphphoto wrote in post #11294208 (external link)
I'd forgotten about those (gimmicky) filters - thanks for the trip down memory lane!

As for the exotic panning technique, the following is from "Cars & Cameras: putting them all together" which is a booklet published by Minolta when they were the official camera of the Vels Parnelli Jones Indycar team in the early 1970s.
"The half-blurred half-focused race car. An even more skillful maneuver is necessary to turn a race car into a blur that's still partially in recognizable focus. Panning is the basic approach. However, as you fire, suddenly slow the pan down then speed it up. The shutter speed you'll need will have to be slower than you'd normally use for panning to fit this maneuver into the time the lens remains open. And then you've got to remember to follow through. Impossible - almost. But half the fun is trying."

You mean something like this?

http://ll.speedhunters​.com …s/09%20JB%20Pho​tos/31.jpg (external link)




  
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Nov 26, 2010 15:15 |  #10

the audi shot has some track furniture in the foreground. the camera has blurred it during the pan and its covering the rear half of the car. (i'm guessing Mr Brooks is already commenting on this thread)
i'm guessing the ferrari shot was blurred in processing, but i couldnt tell you for certain as i'm not that old :)




  
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Dec 11, 2010 16:52 |  #11

Hello,
I took a picture of a Hannamint furniture and it turned out to be a little blurry.
I do not know if its the camera or not.
Can anyone please help me.


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