Good or Bad choice ... d60 to 7D

You do know that the 550d, 60d and 7d all have the same image quality right?

It's amazing how many people mind phuck themselves into thinking they need better gear when they haven't even mastered what they have.

someone here has a sig that says "amateurs worry about gear, professionals worry about skill, and masters worry about lighting."

hieu1004 wrote in post #11303781
Keep the 60D and learn to shoot. You gotta learn to walk before you run - in your case, it sounds like you don't even know how to crawl yet. Best thing I can recommend is spend less time on the forums or you're going to go broke real quick.

Very true lol... I'm in the learning process and pretty much on my baby steps.. I just wanted to be a step ahead and skip the upgrade later (also liked the button layout better) Silly me....Guess I'll just spend on glass instead.

How is my setup as ar as the glass goes??

dnsource wrote in post #11304035
Very true lol... I'm in the learning process and pretty much on my baby steps.. I just wanted to be a step ahead and skip the upgrade later (also liked the button layout better) Silly me....Guess I'll just spend on glass instead.

How is my setup as ar as the glass goes??

The Tamron 17-50mm & Canon 55-250mm is a fine glass setup that's capable of very wonderful images. The typical beginner set is the 18-55mm IS, 55-250mm IS, and 50mm f1.8 which pretty much covers all your bases for a variety of different shooting conditions.

The 60D sure seems like a bastard child in the xxD series. Kinda better than a 50D, but kinda worse too. I just picked up a 7D to replace my 6 month old 50D -- not because I didn't like the 50D; on the contrary, I *loved* it. Because I realized I really want to be able to do DSLR quality video of my new daughter. Could have got a 60D, but wasn't positive it would feel like an upgrade from the 50D even with the added video feature.

That said ... if I already had a 60D, I'd probably just keep it and spend the difference in price on glass. Lenses are a better investment for sure.

Your glass choices seem good to me, though personally I'm starting to get hooked on the idea of primes. In particular, for a crop body, I'm really very pleased with my 30mm Sigma. It's a really great value for the price.

What (if any) DSLR did you own before?

I've got a few minor gripes with the 60D but they are lack of more advanced features that many don't need. If you're new to this I would stick with the 60D.

I'm not familiar with the Sigma 17-50mm lens but the 55-250mm IS is a great consumer lens.

Go to a camera shop and see if the 7D feels more comfortable in your hands.
Just make sure you don't exceed the maximum shutter count of 200 as I recall, if you are returning the 60D to B&H.

i love my 7D! build is solid

if im going to buy a back up DSLR, it would be the 60D. if im going to buy a main DSLR, it would be the 7D (thats why i have it now )

anyways, 60D is one fine equipment and advancement to make this camera are from its bigger siblings. the sensor is the same as the 7D. the major differences between the 2 are FPS, build quality (weather sealed),the 2 DIGIC4 processor that the 7D has and the articulating screen that the 60D has. other than that, its pure owner/operator preference. Image quality is the same since it has the same sensor.

if u ask me, to start out, i would go with the rebel series...even the XSi would be good enough to start or learn with. but i know what you mean with upgrading and not getting left behind the fray. but the difference with the 7D and the 60D is really minute that its better to save money for glass. with the money that u saved from buying a 60D, you can buy a new lens (or combination of new lenses): Sigma 50 f/1.4, Canon 50 f/1.4, Canon 85 f/1.8, Canon 70-300 f/3.5-5.6, nifty fifty.

lostpacket wrote in post #11303927
someone here has a sig that says "amateurs worry about gear, professionals worry about skill, and masters worry about lighting."

im not a master or anything, but what im worried about would be lighting conditions. i just buy the gear so it can actually execute the idea i have in mind or skills i want to use.

dnsource wrote in post #11303516
Because of the mixed reviews on the 60d I'm planning on exchanging mine for the 7D. I'm still good on my return days with B&H. I'm still pretty much learning but I dont want to get left behind after the photography courses I have lined up (I dont want to regret it and want to upgrade later). Good Choice?

Also I ordered 2 lenses with the 60d...Are those good lenses to stay with?

Sigma 17-50mm F2.8 EX DC OS HSM f/CANON - SI175028CA

55-250mm f/4-5.6 LENS - CAE60D55250

Any specific reason for moving to 7D?
There will always be better cameras coming out. Not much can be "left behind" in photography. You old camera , Nikon D40, actually has everything a photographer needs.

Unless there are features I definitely want, I would buy the cheapest body to get the job done, and spend on the best lens I can afford. The IQ difference between expensive & cheap bodies are small. The lens has much bigger impact.

Panda_stunter wrote in post #11305103
........the major differences between the 2 are FPS, build quality (weather sealed),the 2 DIGIC4 processor that the 7D has and the articulating screen that the 60D has. other than that, its pure owner/operator preference. Image quality is the same since it has the same sensor.

if u ask me, to start out, i would go with the rebel series...even the XSi would be good enough to start or learn with. but i know what you mean with upgrading and not getting left behind the fray. but the difference with the 7D and the 60D is really minute that its better to save money for glass.............

There is one important feature that makes 7D a professional grade body, 60D a consumer body: AF micro adjustment. Lenses often have manufacturing variations, especially 3rd party lenses, such as Sigma & Tamron. This feature allows you fine tune the focus accuracy, which can have huge impact on IQ.

crn3371 wrote in post #11303802
I'd stick with what you've got. By the time you outgrow your 60D you'll be able to buy an 8D.

Yeah the 60D has such a short lifespan.

If he gets the 7D by the time he outgrows it he'll be able to buy a 9D Mk4!

yeah, I am joking!

Panda_stunter wrote in post #11305103
anyways, 60D is one fine equipment and advancement to make this camera are from its bigger siblings. the sensor is the same as the 7D. the major differences between the 2 are FPS, build quality (weather sealed),the 2 DIGIC4 processor that the 7D has and the articulating screen that the 60D has. other than that, its pure owner/operator preference. Image quality is the same since it has the same sensor.

Wow you skipped right over two major features of the 7D ....

Amazing Auto-Focus System
Micro Focus Adjustment (MFA) of Lenses.

Panda_stunter wrote in post #11305103
if im going to buy a back up DSLR, it would be the 60D. if im going to buy a main DSLR, it would be the 7D (thats why i have it now )

anyways, 60D is one fine equipment and advancement to make this camera are from its bigger siblings. the sensor is the same as the 7D. the major differences between the 2 are FPS, build quality (weather sealed),the 2 DIGIC4 processor that the 7D has and the articulating screen that the 60D has. other than that, its pure owner/operator preference. Image quality is the same since it has the same sensor.

Let's get a more concise list of feature differences that the 7D has over the 60D, than just the 2-3 items you mention:

1) bigger and button layout is like a majority of the other Canon DSLRs (more standard ergo)
2) more AF modes (ala 1D series), and a better AF system
3) substantially more AF points
4) control 1 additional flash group via wireless control from onboard flash
5) micro-adjustment of lenses
6) dual digic processors
7) higher fps, larger buffer
8) better build, mag body (for those that care) and better weather sealing
9) 100% viewfinder
10) finer AF control with certain macro lenses
11) LCD cover is replaceable (just something to consider for those that are rough on their equipment )

Some of these features affect the final product you produce, ie. IQ... static test subjects would look the same, birds in flight, perhaps not.

Keep the 60D. Most of the banter on forums consists of folks defending their purchases and rationalizing to others that they needed to spend more money for features that will likely never get any use.

... keep the 60D, you'll enjoy it in your photography courses you have lined up, use the money your looking to blow to exchange for the 7D & grab a nice prime lens & a flash to throw into your bag too & you'll have a fantastic setup to start with

Gee, when I took photography classes (30+ years ago) I was shooting with a used, five year old 35mm camera and a 20 year old 4x5 field camera (both of which I still have and both of which still work fine). Somehow I managed to get through my classes.

If I were shooting a lot of macro, or scenics, or studio work, or video, I'd sure like to have the 60D's articulated LCD screen!

If I were hiking or biking with it, I'd sure like it's lighter weight and the way the LCD screen can be folded inward to protect it.

I sure wish my 7Ds and 5DII had that silly little locking button on the mode dial. I only accidentally changed it once during last Sunday's shoot. Some days I've had it happen more often and I hate it when that happens.... it's too easy to keep shooting with the wrong settings for a while until you notice. The simple little locking button on the 60D would have prevented some screwed up shots! Glad to see Canon finally add it... Wish they could retrofit it to my cameras.

Lenses you use will have far more effect on your photography than the camera used behind them. If it allowed you to get more or better lenses, maybe you should return the 60D and get a used 50D, or 30D, or 10D. They are all capable of producing fine images! I'm not commenting on your lenses... I've never used either of them. I'll leave it to others to comment on those.

It will be interesting to see which gets "upgraded" first... the 60D which was just introduced or the 7D which was introduced over a year ago.