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Good or Bad choice ... d60 to 7D

 
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Nov 18, 2010 09:26 |  #31

Sticking with the 60d is a good choice.. You can upgrade whenever you want... Get yourself some good glass.


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Nov 18, 2010 09:31 |  #32

I agree with amfoto1 and was going to post the same thing.... The pace of Canon's upgrades is pretty fast compared to years ago in the film days...

You could return the 60d if you don't want the video and grab an older body. I did and glad I was able to put the money towards my 24-70L.


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Nov 18, 2010 09:32 |  #33

I have never experienced any soft shots.... There are an awful lot on the the 60d thread that users are asking why this is happening... Most are posting that good glass is needed on the 60d..


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Nov 18, 2010 12:01 |  #34

All those camera will give good IQ pictures.
Play around with them in the store to see which one you like more. Check the 7D features that 60D doesn't have and see if you will be needing them.


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Nov 18, 2010 14:53 |  #35

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The Tamron 17-50mm & Canon 55-250mm is a fine glass setup that's capable of very wonderful images. The typical beginner set is the 18-55mm IS, 55-250mm IS, and 50mm f1.8 which pretty much covers all your bases for a variety of different shooting conditions.

My next step will be a prime lens...

Is the Cannon 50mm f1.8 recommended??




  
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Nov 18, 2010 15:07 |  #36

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My next step will be a prime lens...

Is the Cannon 50mm f1.8 recommended??

It is a decent lens, not great, not bad. You may want to use your zooms to try out the 50mm focal length on a crop body to see whether or not it is too long for you. A lot of people have that lens on a crop and are fine with it but in my experience it's a little too long. So right now I'm considering the Canon 35mm L, if I get the money together, or the Sigma 30mm if I go cheap.


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Nov 18, 2010 15:42 |  #37

You asked about the Canon 50mm f 1.8. I think the lens is over recomended because it is inexpensive as lenses go. It does give reasonable results when it is used. Not a superior lens though in my opinion. Mine eventually fell apart, physically. Only lens, I ever had that happen with.

For a lot of us, we like the zoom lenses. I used my zooms in that range 100 to 1 or more over the 50 1.8. It does get a wide f stop , cheap, But with todays ISO capability, it is mostlly uneeded for that. So the only advantage I can see for it is the shallow depth of field available at 1.8. Not the lenses best arperature for sharpness, but it is there.

Personally I would stick with the zoom in that range, f2.8 gives a fairly shallow depth of field. I do not currently own a 50mm fixed lens. My Canon 17-55 2.8 IS efs more than satisfies my needs in this focal range. It is optically better than the 24-70's that I have had and smaller, lighter. Has allways peerformed well for me, no problems in the 3 years I have used it, a lot. (Not the tank (rugged) that the 24-70 is either) So as you are pretty sure of by now I do not recomend the 50 1.8 as a good purchase, I know that is contrary too a lot of recomendations but for the above reasons that is my humble opinion.


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Nov 18, 2010 15:45 |  #38

dnsource wrote in post #11307913 (external link)
My next step will be a prime lens...

Is the Cannon 50mm f1.8 recommended??

On a crop body I'd go with the Canon 35mm f/2 or the Sigma 30mm f/1.4. They're also far more useful for video than 50mm lenses are on 1.6x bodies.


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Nov 18, 2010 16:03 |  #39

The 7D has a much higher learning curve than the 60D. Since you are learning photography I would recommend sticking to the 60D. As far as lenses go, 50mm 1.8 is good choice. Solid lens for the price.

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Nov 18, 2010 18:24 |  #40

cc10d wrote in post #11308209 (external link)
You asked about the Canon 50mm f 1.8. I think the lens is over recomended because it is inexpensive as lenses go. It does give reasonable results when it is used. Not a superior lens though in my opinion. Mine eventually fell apart, physically. Only lens, I ever had that happen with.

For a lot of us, we like the zoom lenses. I used my zooms in that range 100 to 1 or more over the 50 1.8.

Just curious...

What other f1.8 (or any aperture for that matter) 50mm lenses have you compared images to as opposed to the inexpensive Canon that broke? I'll guess not many - if any at all. I've never heard anyone compare and prefer a zoom '100 to 1" over any prime (with the possible exception of people very new to their photography hobby - and even that is just a guess).

Maybe if it were any other focal length, but the 50mm lens has been the most popular lens in the history of photography. Millions were made and improved upon for over a half century - if any one focal length lens has been researched and improved and tweaked anywhere close to the 50mm prime and gotten as close to perfection for a mass market lens, I'd like to know what it is - certainly not any zoom -my expensive 70-200 2.8 IS zoom is very well made and very convenient for my purposes, but it can't hold a candle to my old manual focus f1.4 Zuiko 50mm with it's twelve dollar Ebay OM - EF converter.

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Nov 18, 2010 19:39 |  #41

Delija wrote in post #11309003 (external link)
Maybe if it were any other focal length, but the 50mm lens has been the most popular lens in the history of photography. Millions were made and improved upon for over a half century - if any one focal length lens has been researched and improved and tweaked anywhere close to the 50mm prime and gotten as close to perfection for a mass market lens, I'd like to know what it is.

The 50mm focal length is all of those things... on a 35mm camera. You'd have to get a 35mm lens on your digital crop camera to understand that half century of obsession with a 50mm lens.

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Nov 19, 2010 19:50 |  #42

Delija
If you are really curious, I will attempt a response to your querry.

I have used many a 50mm, 1.4, 1.8, 2.8 etc. I have been shooting for quite a few years, my first "decent" camera, was a "C3" Argus I think it was. There have been many since then, I am from the days of film, my preference was the 35mm, as it was easier to handle and more versatile than the larger cameras.

I have a fair inventory of lenses, including several fixed aperature lenses. Various focal lengths.
I like todays zooms for the same reason I liked 35mm. Versatility, don't have to carry a large bag around, etc. I did not say there was anything wrong with the focal length, just that particular lens was cheaply built and did not hold up. My 17-55 covers the 50 55 mm range with better quality output than many of my older 50mm fixed lenses did. They were good in their time and many of the better ones are still good today. So for versatility and plenty of performance I use a modern zoom. Does my 300mm f2/8 L outperform my 100-400 4.5-5.6L ? Of course it does. Do I carry it more than the 100-400? Nope! seems to be a personal preference of mine to use the special lenses for specific purposes.


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Dec 12, 2010 15:39 |  #43

[QUOTE=dnsource;113035​16]Because of the mixed reviews on the 60d I'm planning on exchanging mine for the 7D. I'm still good on my return days with B&H. I'm still pretty much learning but I dont want to get left behind after the photography courses I have lined up (I dont want to regret it and want to upgrade later). Good Choice?

I understand your opinion..

I have the 5D Mk II and picked the 60D over the 7D because of the adjustable LCD.. a great feature for low or high shots. Plus when you put a 3.5 lb lens on the camera , every bit of weight to take off is great to carry around. If I only had one camera and not the 5D Mk II ; I would pick the 7D. If they put the adjustable LCD on the new 7D coming out , I will get it too.

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