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7D, 5D II, or 1D MK III???

 
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Nov 18, 2010 18:32 |  #1

Need some help here guys. Looking to up grade I shoot a lot of low light bar type shots and some portrait work. The bar shots are usually moving shots which makes me lean toward the mkIII or the 7d. All suggestions welcome.


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Nov 18, 2010 18:56 |  #2

Also I have never shot with any of these three cameras. I would like to hear how these shoot under these conditions.


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Nov 18, 2010 18:58 |  #3
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I've used all but the 7d. I'd lean towards the 1d mark 3.


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Nov 18, 2010 19:13 |  #4

I have done a lot of reading on here about the 1d III and the 7D. Both have great reviews. I recently had someone recommend the 5D is y I added it to the mix.


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Nov 19, 2010 06:53 |  #5

I have used all 3, and I think any of these would work for what you want in low light situations. I have shot our Easter presentation 2 years in a row (low lights, colored lights, movement, etc), in 2009 with the MKIII and in 2010 with the 7D. You can look through these if you would like, all ISO 3200, 6400 and 12800. The lighting was more difficult in 2010, as our AV guy decided to mix things up a bit. Doing portraits, depending on your glass, could end up being your deciding factor, although, again, all 3 work well provided you have good glass, and from your signature, you certainly do. The 7D is the only one that you can use the 17-55 on though, something to consider if you like that lens.

This may be close to what you shoot in bars maybe?

MKIII: http://teamspeed.smugm​ug.com …483_S3JGi#79184​9449_dWv35 (external link)

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7D: http://teamspeed.smugm​ug.com …112_dgHoM#83188​9484_rG9Q4 (external link)

My personal summary is that they are both very, very close in performance, the MKIII gave me a bit more latitude or forgiveness in exposure than the 7D, giving it the edge because of the ability to salvage the content more often. But then again the 7D is no slouch, when you nail it.

Here is a sample 6400 from the 7D, its noise characteristics allow for easy cleanup.

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Nov 19, 2010 07:03 |  #6

Do you use a flash in the bars/clubs ?


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Nov 19, 2010 11:14 |  #7

bohdank wrote in post #11311597 (external link)
Do you use a flash in the bars/clubs ?

Very pertinent question!


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Nov 19, 2010 11:57 |  #8

ds mkiii is I could go anyway with a purchase.


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Nov 19, 2010 12:04 |  #9

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Nov 19, 2010 13:07 |  #10

bohdank wrote in post #11311597 (external link)
Do you use a flash in the bars/clubs ?

I do use flash in the clubs. just my 580 though nothing more. Thanks to all those who have offered the advice so far. Being new to the upper end bodies this really helps.


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\70-200 f4 IS for sale\70-200 2.8 IS II\17-55 2.8\
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Nov 19, 2010 13:09 |  #11

TeamSpeed wrote in post #11311563 (external link)
I have used all 3, and I think any of these would work for what you want in low light situations. I have shot our Easter presentation 2 years in a row (low lights, colored lights, movement, etc), in 2009 with the MKIII and in 2010 with the 7D. You can look through these if you would like, all ISO 3200, 6400 and 12800. The lighting was more difficult in 2010, as our AV guy decided to mix things up a bit. Doing portraits, depending on your glass, could end up being your deciding factor, although, again, all 3 work well provided you have good glass, and from your signature, you certainly do. The 7D is the only one that you can use the 17-55 on though, something to consider if you like that lens.

This may be close to what you shoot in bars maybe?

MKIII: http://teamspeed.smugm​ug.com …483_S3JGi#79184​9449_dWv35 (external link)

vs

7D: http://teamspeed.smugm​ug.com …112_dgHoM#83188​9484_rG9Q4 (external link)

My personal summary is that they are both very, very close in performance, the MKIII gave me a bit more latitude or forgiveness in exposure than the 7D, giving it the edge because of the ability to salvage the content more often. But then again the 7D is no slouch, when you nail it.

Here is a sample 6400 from the 7D, its noise characteristics allow for easy cleanup.

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This is very close to what i do . Those are some very nice shots.


7D\\G10
\70-200 f4 IS for sale\70-200 2.8 IS II\17-55 2.8\
\Sigma 50 1.4\Sigma 8mm fisheye\ Sigma 30 1.4\2 580EX11\
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Nov 19, 2010 13:14 |  #12

I think the 7D is as good as the 1D3 in almost every way... No reason to spend the extra money there. If I were doing a lot of low light stuff, I'd go 5D. The only reason I don't have a 5 now is because I shoot so much sports.


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Nov 19, 2010 13:15 |  #13

Thats my problem i shoot my kids alot in football and band plus my 2 yr old hes never still lol.


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Nov 19, 2010 13:19 as a reply to  @ Justonce's post |  #14

MKIII if budget is no issue ... otherwise 5DMKII.
Just my .02


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Nov 19, 2010 13:26 |  #15

Mark II wrote in post #11313263 (external link)
MKIII if budget is no issue ... otherwise 5DMKII.
Just my .02

??? They are the same price on the used market, actually the MKIII comes in a bit lower. :)


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