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How Import Photos Into DPP With Card Reader?

 
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Nov 22, 2010 13:57 |  #16

Lowner wrote in post #11327279 (external link)
Pixel Magic,

"I've never seen a card reader create a folder on a hard drive as you describe. What operating system are you using"?

Plain vanilla flavour Windows XP

Its impossible for a card reader to create a folder on your hard drive. Your operating system, Windows XP included, recognizes a card reader as if it were a hard drive and assigns it a drive letter but that's as far as it goes.

On the other hand, your camera creates a folder on your memory card and stores its images there. That's a requirement of the DCF specification and has nothing to do with card readers per se: http://www.exif.org/dc​f.PDF (external link)

When you insert a memory card into a card reader you are certainly able to view the folders and files it contains, after all the operating system recognizes it as a regular drive, but a card reader cannot by itself then create a folder on your hard drive.

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It's actually your camera that creates those folders. You just need to double click on it and then "Select All" the actual files and drag them into a folder on your PC.

I have a folder called "RAW" on my desktop. I simply drag everything into that one folder. I have DPP set up to open right to that folder, too. It's really simple.

I use Downloader Pro (external link) to move my files from multiple cards in my card readers to my hard drive. Its much safer than moving files by hand since it uses error verification to check that the files were moved correctly. Rene also mentioned ImageIngester Pro that works similarly and there's also free software from Alan Light called Digital Image Mover that can move, rename, and sort your images although it has less features than the other two programs: http://www.alanlight.c​om/dim/Dim.htm (external link)


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Nov 22, 2010 14:04 |  #17

PixelMagic wrote in post #11327631 (external link)
I use Downloader Pro (external link) to move my files from multiple cards in my card readers to my hard drive. Its much safer than moving files by hand since it uses error verification to check that the files were moved correctly. Rene also mentioned ImageIngester Pro that works similarly and there's also free software from Alan Light called Digital Image Mover that can move, rename, and sort your images although it has less features than the other two programs: http://www.alanlight.c​om/dim/Dim.htm (external link)

Thanks. I haven't had any corrupted files yet, though :) I'm a KISS kind of guy. The less software the better!


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Nov 22, 2010 14:39 |  #18

I'm not averse to doing things by hand but I shoot a lot of events with multiple cameras so I end up with between 3-5 cards and sometimes thousands of images.

Downloader Pro reads the EXIF metadata of each photo and correctly places each photo in date-based folders and also renames each photo into my preferred file-naming format. It would be quite a chore to do that by hand.

I've used Downloader Pro for at least 8 years and it has never once failed me.

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Thanks. I haven't had any corrupted files yet, though :) I'm a KISS kind of guy. The less software the better!


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Nov 22, 2010 15:53 as a reply to  @ PixelMagic's post |  #19

"Its impossible for a card reader to create a folder on your hard drive".

I'm no expert. All I know is I did nothing, as far as I'm aware the card reader created the Canon100 all on its own. I was not asked where I wanted it put, it just ignored me and did its own thing.

OK, so it might have been XP creating the mayhem, either way it took an awful lot of putting right.


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Nov 22, 2010 17:52 |  #20

PixelMagic wrote in post #11327854 (external link)
I'm not averse to doing things by hand but I shoot a lot of events with multiple cameras so I end up with between 3-5 cards and sometimes thousands of images.

ahhh understood. I'm just a hobbiest :oops:


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Nov 22, 2010 17:55 |  #21

Lowner wrote in post #11317593 (external link)
This is my big complaint with card readers. Mine creates a file called "Canon100" on the PC hard drive...

I've used half a dozen card readers, and never had one do that. I slip the CF card into the reader, open the directory via Windows Explorer (or other file explorer app) and copy the files into a directory of my choosing.

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Further, I've also shot multi-day events with thousands of images. It's never been any trouble to select (using mouse or keyboard) the images, and then copy them into a hard drive directory that I've created.


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Nov 23, 2010 02:30 |  #22

Lowner wrote in post #11328199 (external link)
"Its impossible for a card reader to create a folder on your hard drive".

I'm no expert. All I know is I did nothing, as far as I'm aware the card reader created the Canon100 all on its own. I was not asked where I wanted it put, it just ignored me and did its own thing.

OK, so it might have been XP creating the mayhem, either way it took an awful lot of putting right.

Richard, what you are seeing is the card folder structure that opens up when you plug in the card. When the OS opens up the card as a "drive", you can then move/copy things to your hard drive as you wish. The folder names are just how the camera creates and stores the "stuff".


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Nov 23, 2010 06:01 |  #23

Tony,

Bear in mind this was one time only, but I saw nothing at all - no card folder structure, it got on with it without further involvement from me. At least until later, when theres was lots of involvement!

I did not use any software to do this, I did not know I needed any. Canon told me that a card reader was required, so I bought a card reader.


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Nov 23, 2010 06:12 |  #24

So Richard, I'm a bit lost here -- the EOS Utilities communicates with the camera, but ZoomBrowser has a Card Reader utility. I actually use Lightroom with a card reader. With a card reader you tell the software what you want to do with the photos. Are you saying that the Canon software was set up to automatically do some stuff/create folders and move files? If so, I would change the preferences to do what you want them to do rather than do what at one time you maybe said "OK" to them doing:)!


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Nov 23, 2010 07:34 |  #25

Tony,

I appreciate you are trying to help by showing me what I might have done wrong, and bless you for trying. But I got so totally pissed off by the whole experience that is no way on Gods earth I will EVER try it again voluntarily.

If it was set up to do it that way, then all I can say is it had no input from me doing so. I was never asked how I wished things to upload, to where or with what naming protocol. That might have been sensible, because I would then have had to make some decisions for myself.

Typical computer nightmare, nothing ever comes with a set of operating instructions. Instead of "WYSIWYG" ( "what you see is what you get")It should be called WYGIWWD "What You Get Is What We Decide", "we" being the computer nerds who dreamt that nightmare up.


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Nov 23, 2010 07:51 |  #26

Interesting Richard, and sorry things "crapped out" on you! For me, a card reader has been the way to go for, gosh, several years, because they just work. I don't know what went wrong on your part!


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Nov 23, 2010 12:05 |  #27

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Typical computer nightmare,


lol - ie, User Error ;)


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Nov 23, 2010 13:17 |  #28

I use ZoomBrowser. I have XP set up to open ZB when I put a card in the reader, then one click for "download images" and they're downloaded to my chosen directory and placed in folders by date of capture.

Painless.

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Nov 23, 2010 13:33 as a reply to  @ number six's post |  #29

"lol - ie, User Error"

No, not if the user is not told what should be done. Situation normal in the computer industry. In no other industry would this be tolerated. How you would feel about buying a 5d mk3 and not getting a manual with it?


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Nov 24, 2010 16:31 |  #30

NinetyEight wrote in post #11316602 (external link)
You will need to copy them from the card to a folder on your PC (Where your other raw files are stored would be a good place). Then simply use the folder/file browser in DPP to view the files.

I just tried this. I will say it was rather cumbersome to create a folder. I had to dig around through layers of folders to find a good spot. EOS Utilities seems to create a folder, logically ordered by date, and put all the photos from one batch in there automatically.

With the card reader, are you supposed to create a new folder for every batch of photos?

I also had trouble with DPP once I put the photos in the folder. I couldn't figure out what to do with them. I could see the photos in DPP, but wasn't sure if they were in there the normal way. I didn't look for the folder/file browser though. I'll look for that next time.




  
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