Does anyone have the service manual for this lens as I would be interested to see what I was actually tightening underneath those little tiny screws
I will have to try and find some jewellers screwdrivers to make the adjustment now
big_g Goldmember 1,064 posts Gallery: 418 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 2224 Joined Apr 2010 Location: Lincolnshire UK, Live in Scotland More info | Does anyone have the service manual for this lens as I would be interested to see what I was actually tightening underneath those little tiny screws Very lucky to have a lot of nice toys
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SittingElf Member 147 posts Joined Mar 2010 Location: Palm Bay, Florida More info | Feb 03, 2011 14:06 | #47 The screws did nothing for my creep. I adjusted minimally each time, starting with 1/8th turns. After getting nearly a full turn, my lens creep is exactly the same. Bodies: 1Dx, 5D MkII + MkIII, 7D, 50D, SD780IS, | Stability: Gitzo GT5532LS, RRS BH-55, Manfrotto 055CXPRO3 and Monopod
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richardfox Goldmember 1,883 posts Joined Oct 2009 Location: Bellbrook, Ohio, USA More info | Feb 03, 2011 14:45 | #48 Sitting Elf wrote in post #11770685 The screws did nothing for my creep. I adjusted minimally each time, starting with 1/8th turns. After getting nearly a full turn, my lens creep is exactly the same. This is clearly a problem with this lens, as MANY people on this, and other forums have brought to light. I don't think I should have to spend $$ with Canon and have to wait for adjustment for a problem that is clearly a manufacturing fault. Any lawyers out there?? This is a clear case for class action to force Canon to recall. Anybody got any ideas?? ![]() My 24-105 doesn't creep at all. Don't know why. Does "lens creep" affect your shooting? If so, try the electrical tape trick. It costs zero to put a couple strips of tape on the lens. If the lens creeps when hanging from you strap, so what? One zooms when shooting! Canon 50D gripped, EF 50/1.8, EF-S 10-22, 17-40L, 24-105L, 70-200 f/2.8L, 100/2.8 macro, 100-400L, 300 2.8L, Canon 500 f8 mirror with chipped EF mount, 580EX, 1.4x and 2x Canon teleconverters, Canon EF Life-Size converter.
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Hogloff Cream of the Crop 7,606 posts Likes: 416 Joined Apr 2003 Location: British Columbia More info | Feb 03, 2011 14:48 | #49 Permanent banrichardfox wrote in post #11770863 My 24-105 doesn't creep at all. Don't know why. Does "lens creep" affect your shooting? If so, try the electrical tape trick. It costs zero to put a couple strips of tape on the lens. If the lens creeps when hanging from you strap, so what? One zooms when shooting! Yep, call the lawyers. Sock Canon with hundreds of thusands of dollars in costs, and maybe, just maybe, they will lower lens prices. Or pour even more money into R&D. I've had a bunch of zooms that would creep when held in a vertical position, and in 40+ years, it hasn't caused a single problem. Perhaps I don't "understand" why lens creep seems to be a major issue... I was in the slot canyons shooting long exposures with the lens pointed up and it would creep on me, causing many failed images. This IS a lens design defect which Canon should address. Granted, not all lens seem to be affected, but enough have to warrant some action.
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timnosenzo Cream of the Crop 8,833 posts Likes: 14 Joined Sep 2005 Location: CT More info | Feb 03, 2011 14:52 | #50 Sitting Elf wrote in post #11770685 Any lawyers out there?? This is a clear case for class action to force Canon to recall. Anybody got any ideas?? ![]() Really? A lawsuit? connecticut wedding photographer
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Feb 03, 2011 14:59 | #51 Permanent banwhy not, its a quality control issue.
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NinetyEight "Banned for life" More info | Feb 03, 2011 15:12 | #52
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timnosenzo Cream of the Crop 8,833 posts Likes: 14 Joined Sep 2005 Location: CT More info | Feb 03, 2011 15:22 | #53 nekrosoft13 wrote in post #11770940 why not, its a quality control issue. Does Canon state somewhere that the lens will not creep? connecticut wedding photographer
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munzzzzzzz Senior Member 591 posts Joined Feb 2009 Location: SE WI More info | Feb 03, 2011 15:42 | #54 How many people have adjusted those screws and eliminated the lens creep by doing so? I have seen very few posts (both here and elsewhere) that implied it worked, but several that said it didn't. Last time I looked, I specifically found one post from someone who claimed they knew what they were talking about that the screws had nothing to do with the zoom tension at all. Boky on dpreview wrote: What Canon rep was that???? He should reconsider his carrier choice. The rubber rings (both) are very easy to move back / front, but the screws AND TEFLON WASHERS (and white silicon grease) are there ONLY to properly distance the (plastic) focus ring from the (plastic) lens body to prevent GRINDING NOISE when manually focusing - that’s all. Note: screws are there only to fix the teflon washers that actually are the only important thing here....(with a bit of grease...) Boky Copied from here: 6D | 40mm f/2.8 | 50mm f/1.4 | 70-200mm f/4L IS | 580EXII | 2x PCB Einstein | Various Modifiers
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SittingElf Member 147 posts Joined Mar 2010 Location: Palm Bay, Florida More info | Feb 03, 2011 17:29 | #55 richardfox wrote in post #11770863 My 24-105 doesn't creep at all. Don't know why. Does "lens creep" affect your shooting? It does when I'm pointing the camera downwards. Absolutely. If so, try the electrical tape trick. It costs zero to put a couple strips of tape on the lens. Oh yeah... that's the solution I want with a $1000+ lens. Just throw sticky tape all over it! Give me a break! If the lens creeps when hanging from you strap, so what? One zooms when shooting! 1. Because in a nasty environment, dust, sand and other crap can get into the mechanism if the zoom is extended. Then you get grinding and wear when zooming. Yep, call the lawyers. Sock Canon with hundreds of thusands of dollars in costs, and maybe, just maybe, they will lower lens prices. Or pour even more money into R&D. . I've had a bunch of zooms that would creep when held in a vertical position, and in 40+ years, it hasn't caused a single problem. Well good for you. However that doesn't mean that the rest of us haven't had problems with the issue. Your statement is specious, considering that it is clearly meant to insinuate that it shouldn't cause problems for anyone else if doesn't for YOU. Perhaps I don't "understand" why lens creep seems to be a major issue... Apparently not. Bodies: 1Dx, 5D MkII + MkIII, 7D, 50D, SD780IS, | Stability: Gitzo GT5532LS, RRS BH-55, Manfrotto 055CXPRO3 and Monopod
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richardfox Goldmember 1,883 posts Joined Oct 2009 Location: Bellbrook, Ohio, USA More info | Feb 03, 2011 18:10 | #56 Sitting Elf wrote in post #11771855 It does when I'm pointing the camera downwards. Absolutely. Oh yeah... that's the solution I want with a $1000+ lens. Just throw sticky tape all over it! Give me a break! 1. Because in a nasty environment, dust, sand and other crap can get into the mechanism if the zoom is extended. Then you get grinding and wear when zooming. 2. I don't hang the camera from my neck. I have it generally in a CottonCarrier when I'm on the move . Oh, I see... Rather than forcing them to fix a problem that THEY created, we should just not say anything because it 'might' cost them money to fix??!! "L" lenses are supposed to be TOP OF THE LINE... and that means "WITHOUT ISSUES"! That's what we pay for, and that's what we expect the company to honor. Well good for you. However that doesn't mean that the rest of us haven't had problems with the issue. Your statement is specious, considering that it is clearly meant to insinuate that it shouldn't cause problems for anyone else if doesn't for YOU. Apparently not. My, my, my. Must have touched a nerve! Canon 50D gripped, EF 50/1.8, EF-S 10-22, 17-40L, 24-105L, 70-200 f/2.8L, 100/2.8 macro, 100-400L, 300 2.8L, Canon 500 f8 mirror with chipped EF mount, 580EX, 1.4x and 2x Canon teleconverters, Canon EF Life-Size converter.
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V-Wiz Goldmember 2,255 posts Joined Sep 2009 Location: Southern California More info | Feb 03, 2011 18:20 | #57 Gripped 5D Mark II l 24-105 F/4 L l 70-200 F/4 L l Tokina 12-24 F4 l 50mm 1.8 l Sigma 600 Mirror l B+W KSM CPL l B+W 6stop ND filter l Hitech 0.6 GND l YN-468 Flash l Kenko Pro 300 1.4 TC l Induro Tripod, Vanguard 250 Ballhead.
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SittingElf Member 147 posts Joined Mar 2010 Location: Palm Bay, Florida More info | Feb 03, 2011 18:33 | #58 richardfox wrote in post #11772049 My, my, my. Must have touched a nerve! I guess I'm from a different age. If I had a problem as you've described, I would write a letter, and wait for their response. If I wrote a letter explaining the issue, and asking for resolution and they declined, I'd go up the ladder with another letter. A class-action lawsuit due to lens creep? It's no wonder we have a "sue everybody" society. Yes, it would be nice if the lens didn't creep, but have you tried contacting Canon in writing as suggested? No, not an e-mail. A real complaint letter, not a phone call to someone in customer support. Yup.. They want $90.00 plus shipping to "service" the lens. So they want ME to pay for THEIR problem. Bodies: 1Dx, 5D MkII + MkIII, 7D, 50D, SD780IS, | Stability: Gitzo GT5532LS, RRS BH-55, Manfrotto 055CXPRO3 and Monopod
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kwando Goldmember 1,345 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2008 Location: Aurora, Co More info | Feb 03, 2011 19:29 | #59 ~Simon~
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versedmb Goldmember 4,448 posts Likes: 4 Joined Apr 2006 More info | Feb 03, 2011 20:07 | #60 Agreed. Sometimes I really do have a strong dislike for this country.....and trial lawyers. Sitting Elf wrote in post #11771855 . Oh yeah... that's the solution I want with a $1000+ lens. Just throw sticky tape all over it! Give me a break! . I put two tiny, thin strips of black duct tape on the inner part of the barrel and that fixed it perfectly; just the right amount of tension. Seriously, is it that big of deal? Gear List
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