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Nov 24, 2010 20:31 |  #16

so with FileMaker i wont have to link to a web server they can just have a clickable file?


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Nov 24, 2010 21:01 |  #17

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so with FileMaker i wont have to link to a web server they can just have a clickable file?

No, It's been a few years, but it was called FileMaker Developer. It allowed you to make a self-running application that didn't need the internet or external files.


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Nov 25, 2010 00:55 |  #18

FileMaker Developer is that a apple base product?


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Nov 25, 2010 08:47 |  #19

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Nov 25, 2010 09:22 |  #20

Just keep the files on the CD relatively small, say 400 x 600 pixels or less. And, if they are proods, watermark them.

TFP, though, implies that the files would be freely usable for reasonable size prints (8x10ish) and/or digital portfolios, without overwhelming watermarks.


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Nov 25, 2010 09:26 |  #21

almost sounds like some people are treating TFP as "no session fees"


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Nov 25, 2010 09:27 |  #22

How do you post a new message/Question???




  
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Nov 25, 2010 09:43 |  #23

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Time for Print (or Trade for Print or Test for Print, often abbreviated TFP, and sometimes also called Print for Time or PFT) is a term used in many online photography communities describing an arrangement between a model and a photographer, whereby the photographer agrees to provide the model with an agreed number of pictures of the best photographs from the session and a limited license to use those pictures in return for the model's time. A variant of this arrangement is Time for CD or Trade for CD (TFCD). With TFCD, the selection of images is provided on a CD in lieu of prints. Similarly, with the ease and convenience of digital distribution of high resolution images, the generic term TF* has evolved, where it does not necessarily refer to a tangible CD or Printed image since the same accepted rules apply.
There are benefits to both parties of such an arrangement: the model can build a portfolio of prints to show to prospective clients at little or no cost, while the photographer gets a model for a particular project with little if any outlay of cash.


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Nov 25, 2010 11:34 |  #24

true but in my contract it states prints must be bought through my site. And alot of times they go and get it printed somewhere else.


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Nov 25, 2010 11:34 |  #25

They still have the digital files on CD as well as PDF format.


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Nov 26, 2010 20:22 |  #26

ErrolEPhotography wrote in post #11344638 (external link)
true but in my contract it states prints must be bought through my site. And alot of times they go and get it printed somewhere else.

You're not understanding what TFP is supposed to be. It's a pretty old practice in the fashion world. Typically new fashion photographers (often working a "day job" as an assistant to an established photographer) contact equally new stylists, make-up artists, and models to create a pseudo commercial fashion session. Everyone gets commercial-quality images for their own respective portfolios. Back in the film days, those would commonly be 8x10 B&W prints--what was required for any subsequent printing purposes.

These days, it would be non-watermarked digital images.

The point is not to sell images to the people who participated in the project. They all contributed their own professional services and they all get images fully useable for their own promotion.

Frankly, if you were dealing this way with other real professionals, you'd have been told where to get off by now.


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Nov 27, 2010 05:50 |  #27

RDKirk wrote in post #11351145 (external link)
Frankly, if you were dealing this way with other real professionals, you'd have been told where to get off by now.

Agreed.

If it's "no session fee" then it's no session fee and fine to sell the photos. But telling someone it'll be a TF arrangement then holding the images hostage for cash is unethical.


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Nov 27, 2010 23:53 |  #28

But what if the person creates a PDF of the files to give to the models and stuff for there own. They tech still have High Res images right? Just in PDF and u can save em as such.


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Nov 28, 2010 00:13 |  #29

And what's the advantage to anyone of doing that? Wouldn't it be easier to just give a CD of high-rez images? (watermarked or not as per your descretion)


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Nov 28, 2010 09:18 |  #30

I do this cause they sign contracts for tfp that they pic 3-5 photos of there own choosing but they want like the whole CD of edited image. I'm like 3-5 then they can pick. And if they want to purchase any more they can.


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