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In contact with a newspaper... what comes next?

 
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Nov 25, 2010 00:09 |  #1

A couple hours ago there was an apartment fire and I happened to live close enough that I could grab my camera and snap a few dozens photos. I wouldn't say any of them are one-in-a-million shots, but I contacted the local daily and sent a few low-res samples to a reporter. The reporter liked the pictures enough to forward them to a couple of editors who'll be taking a look at them tomorrow (they're gone for the night already). In the event that they do contact me and want to run one of my photos, what should I expect to happen next? I imagine I'll have to negotiate a price and terms of usage -- will this be verbal or will there be paper/emails involved? And when it comes to payment do I bill them or will they take care of it all?

Also, I shoot for my university's newspaper as well and will be submitting it to my editor. When negotiating with the local paper, should I push to maintain copyright of my image so that the university paper can print the same/similar photo? Is this considered double-dipping and is it unethical?




  
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Nov 25, 2010 00:22 |  #2

Most newspapers and media outlets have specific contracts which they asks photographers to sign up. I would be inclined to say to them that the terms for use of these pictures are non-exclusive so you can use them elsewhere.

My first major press job saw me supply all the major TV and Newspaper companies in Australia. I had no previous agreements in place with any of them at the time. I was the only photographer on hand at a major bus crash and ended up supplying just about all of them with pictures.

After I had done this many of the companies kept me on their books as a freelancer and I ended up getting regular work from two or three major newspapers. At this point I signed up to the various contracts that they had for freelancers.

For standard work most press agencies have a standard rate they will pay for a picture and normally they but rights to use them within their media group. Chances are whoever owns the newspaper also owns several others and probably a few TV news stations.

If you have an exclusive shots though and it is big news (in my case it was) then you can expect to be paid more. If one paper has shots of a major event and another does not the paper that doesn't appears to the general public as if it cannot keep up so to speak.


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Nov 25, 2010 18:21 |  #3

Bend over. Newspapers dictate terms, take it or leave it. My only insistence was that they license the image for a single use in their own paper, additional usage by negotiation. Probably doesn't matter much for a local paper/fire.


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Nov 26, 2010 19:02 |  #4

I would expect a by-line...


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Nov 27, 2010 16:50 |  #5

Thanks, everyone. Unfortunately, though expected, the newspaper did not get back in touch with me and rather had one of their staffers take a picture of the building the day after. Bummer.




  
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Nov 27, 2010 19:37 |  #6

It wasn't really huge news... Catch the mayor with a hooker and you might get a few bucks...


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Nov 28, 2010 14:53 |  #7

gravy graffix wrote in post #11355550 (external link)
It wasn't really huge news... Catch the mayor with a hooker and you might get a few bucks...

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Nov 29, 2010 06:12 |  #8

lol gravy, so true. newspaper gigs i personally have found to be a joke at best.


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Nov 29, 2010 09:30 as a reply to  @ HastyPhoto's post |  #9

Newspapers are struggling just to keep the door open. Their primary income (advertising) is drying up. If they can't get it for free or close to it they won't spend the money.




  
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Nov 29, 2010 15:39 as a reply to  @ mobileman's post |  #10

Be aware in the future that newspapers are notorious for rights-grabs. Their staff photographers are work-for-hire, so the paper owns everything they shoot while on the job, and some papers have lucrative resale business.

The Wife and I are both journalism vets, so know all about this. This past year she provided some swim team photos to the local paper as a service to the team, which our daughter competes on. Within 24 hours the paper was selling them online via the website. It took several calls before they accepted that we hadn't transferred copyright to them, and only granted a one-time editorial license. So be vigilant.


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