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Nov 25, 2010 14:23 |  #1

I shot this a couple of days ago in downtown Denver. Had to dodge some traffic, but we survived, lol.




  
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Nov 25, 2010 14:30 |  #2

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Nov 25, 2010 16:28 |  #3

I'm going to be honest and say this image doesn't work for me. Looks like you over sharpened it way too much? There's a bit of halo around her. Her face is partially blown too.

The lines going through her legs, the light pole directly behind her, and the clock behind her ruined the pic completely. I think it would have worked better if you use the line on the ground to lead viewer's eye to your model.


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Nov 25, 2010 18:30 |  #4

Thanks for both of the comments.

Tawcan wrote in post #11345663 (external link)
I'm going to be honest and say this image doesn't work for me. Looks like you over sharpened it way too much? There's a bit of halo around her. Her face is partially blown too.

The lines going through her legs, the light pole directly behind her, and the clock behind her ruined the pic completely. I think it would have worked better if you use the line on the ground to lead viewer's eye to your model.

And I was trying to go for a very specific type of processing. It isn't for everyone and I understand that. :)

As far as the compositional issues please remember we were on a busy street, downtown, in a good sized city. If you haven't photographed a model like this before it is completely different from doing something in a studio, or even on a location where you have time to compose the shot, and then instruct the model on what to do, and how to improve the photo.

This wasn't a closed off street and we had on average 20 seconds of shooting, which included walking out in the middle of the street, me setting up my light, focusing the camera, the model getting into position, etc. We could then go back to the side of the street and look over everything, but there is only so much you can do there, because you have to walk back out in the middle of the street and set everything up again. And it seemed like it was impossible to get everything the same two intervals in a row.

The photo isn't perfect at all, and I understand that. But it doesn't seem to me like you are taking into account how difficult it is to shoot this type of a shot on an open road with traffic coming every 20 seconds. This isn't a composite photo. I didn't shoot her in a studio and paste her into the shot. We literally shot on an open road at 6:30am earlier this week. Maybe it is difficult to understand until you have tried it is as photographer.




  
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Nov 25, 2010 20:09 |  #5

really, no one really cares about how difficult it was to shoot. It is the final photo that people look at.

The photo doesn't do much for me either, unfortunately. Mainly because of the way it is shot. You model is blending in with the building. When you use BW it is all about shapes and structure and here you have a total mess in the frame. The white line between the legs, the hair on her face, the windows of the building, the pose and the processing (white outline is no good, it is over contrasted) are all making this shot rather weak. It is possible to have a good shoot in 5-10 minutes. You just have to think about the desired frame before you take out the camera. In face your entire shoot may take only 1/200 of a second ;) so, rather then explaining the situation, go out and shoot more, and after a little time you will look back at this one with a smile ;) We all do :)


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Nov 25, 2010 21:03 |  #6

Too busy a bg.


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Nov 26, 2010 14:17 |  #7

Tawcan wrote in post #11345663 (external link)
I'm going to be honest and say this image doesn't work for me. Looks like you over sharpened it way too much? There's a bit of halo around her. Her face is partially blown too.

these things can be fixed the union station sign would be nice to be in the shot though


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Nov 26, 2010 18:17 |  #8

not bad Joe, definitely needs to be a little more singled out. But in Fashion rules are broken time and time again. Just pick up Italian Vogue or any other high fashion magazine out there. You'll find all kinds of "technical errors" There's a lot more that goes into fashion and editorial photography then the rules!

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Nov 26, 2010 22:45 |  #9

lapiqurestudios wrote in post #11350660 (external link)
not bad Joe, definitely needs to be a little more singled out. But in Fashion rules are broken time and time again. Just pick up Italian Vogue or any other high fashion magazine out there. You'll find all kinds of "technical errors" There's a lot more that goes into fashion and editorial photography then the rules!

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there are two ways to break the rules. Intentionally and unintentionally. When it's intentional - usually one can tell. When not - its a mistake. Oh well :)


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Nov 27, 2010 01:34 |  #10

haha one will never tell. "oh I meant to do that"......


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Nov 27, 2010 01:43 |  #11

Its funny because I can guarantee that if the OP's photo had been taken by say, Mario Testino, people would have raved about how he is so out of the box or his art is amazing blah blah blah but because we all know that it was a "no name" photographer (sorry mate, I mean that in a nice way) some are quick to dismiss it as technically wrong and Mr. Gold member up there even goes as far as to abrasively say "really, no one really cares about how difficult it was to shoot" Correct me if I'm reading it wrong but it comes off as tactless and talked down upon.
I personally like the 3D halo effect you've intentionally or unintentionally have created.


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Nov 27, 2010 12:54 |  #12

jaycky wrote in post #11349564 (external link)
these things can be fixed the union station sign would be nice to be in the shot though



I wanted it as a 4x6 aspect ratio. And that meant cutting off part of the sign, but I ended up liking it that way. There is still enough of it to still be seen, for those who look. I did all the editing myself, and for me there were somethings that were a trade-off in post-processing, but I really like the way it turned out.




  
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Nov 27, 2010 12:56 |  #13

korrektor wrote in post #11351624 (external link)
there are two ways to break the rules. Intentionally and unintentionally. When it's intentional - usually one can tell. When not - its a mistake. Oh well :)

Mr. Photography Professor. I understand that you don't like the picture. And that is completely fine. Although, if you don't have anything to add that is constructive go troll somewhere else. :) You clearly have a lot of time on your hands and there are plenty of other threads on this site where you can be a jerk and harass people.




  
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Nov 27, 2010 12:58 |  #14

lapiqurestudios wrote in post #11350660 (external link)
not bad Joe, definitely needs to be a little more singled out. But in Fashion rules are broken time and time again. Just pick up Italian Vogue or any other high fashion magazine out there. You'll find all kinds of "technical errors" There's a lot more that goes into fashion and editorial photography then the rules!

Cheers

I am one of the photographers who just picks up a camera and takes a picture of what he likes. I have never really studied photography, so I don't know the rules. lol.

But that is okay because photography is not my day job, nor do I want it to be.




  
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Nov 27, 2010 13:16 |  #15

yeah I've noticed 'ol Korrektor likes to be big bossman from other threads. I dont know what it is about photographers well not all of them but as soon as they get a hint of success or shoot a decent gig or two their heads just go BAM! Plus I've noticed this forum is full of amateurs who just shoot to shoot. no biggie

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