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Do you let others post process your work?

 
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Nov 25, 2010 18:54 |  #1

As a disclaimer, I am just an enthusiast - not a pro. I am shooting my cousin's wedding in a week along with a few other friends/cousins. One of them promised to make an album for the bride and the groom. He is asking for photo donations from the other people with DSLRs.

Now, I have no problem sharing any of my work, especially with friends and family - but - he is demanding the files in RAW so he can do all the post processing. I told him that I prefer to do all the post processing. It is my work and I would like it to look like my work.

A mind fight over email ensued.

Am I being too prideful in wanting to have control of my work? Have you guys run into this before? I know in the pro world, you sometimes get paid to take shots and hand over the memory cards. But, in a more personal scenario, what are your thoughts?


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Nov 25, 2010 18:58 |  #2

He might want to PP the images himself so all the PP is pretty similar. Or he might want to PP the images so he can say,"he did all the hard work." Or some crazy other idea. In the end its up too you if you want to give him the raw files, I would, but I would also PP the images the way I want for my own portfolio.


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Nov 25, 2010 19:05 |  #3

I guess I should add one other caveat. This guy is a strait gear head. The kind that has 4L primes, 70-200 f/2.8IS, and a 5DMkII, but he shoots mostly in Green Square mode and Aperture Priority in low light. He doesn't care to learn photography or light theory.

So part of my fears he may make my shots look like garbage.


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Nov 25, 2010 19:13 |  #4

What reasoning does he give for not wanting you to do your own processing?




  
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Nov 25, 2010 19:16 |  #5

'demanding' on something you are 'donating' ?


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Nov 25, 2010 19:21 |  #6

Roroco wrote in post #11346189 (external link)
So part of my fears he may make my shots look like garbage.

Then dont give them to him=p


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Nov 25, 2010 19:26 |  #7

As a general rule, I don't allow others to post process my images. I guess you need to come to an agreement with him regarding the use of your images for the bridge and groom. Ultimately, they are your images and you can restrict there use however you want.


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Nov 25, 2010 19:27 |  #8

I'm not being funny but maybe you should seek out a course on assertiveness.

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Nov 25, 2010 19:40 |  #9

Woodworker wrote in post #11346293 (external link)
I'm not being funny but maybe you should seek out a course on assertiveness.

David

You got that from a post asking your thoughts? I have no issues with assertiveness. At 6'5: 270lbs, bald, goatied, and a slightly obnoxious personality... I have never been mistaken for timid.

Maybe you should take a course on internet psychology.


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Nov 25, 2010 19:45 |  #10

jra wrote in post #11346217 (external link)
What reasoning does he give for not wanting you to do your own processing?

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"All I ask is getting access to your shots (in RAW) pre-processing so that I can let them choose what they they like and I will put my spin on the processing after. No offense to anyone but I don't want your post-processing shot and if they're in JPG, then I will pass as there's not much I can do to the photos. "


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Nov 25, 2010 20:21 |  #11

Roroco wrote in post #11346354 (external link)
His words

"All I ask is getting access to your shots (in RAW) pre-processing so that I can let them choose what they they like and I will put my spin on the processing after. No offense to anyone but I don't want your post-processing shot and if they're in JPG, then I will pass as there's not much I can do to the photos. "

Have you seen any of his work? And his thoughts that he can do nothing with a JPEG is pure BS, as I have had magazine stuff published from JPEGS along with catalog and other stuff, and it just rocked when processed properly.


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Nov 25, 2010 20:27 as a reply to  @ Bosscat's post |  #12

You should ask to see some of his post process work.

Say show me some raw and then the processed photos. If he does a good job I would give him the raw files.

I presume your cousin knows that the photos are not all coming from him but everyone, so everyone gets credit for the photos too.

Will he mention photos are supplied by and list the names?


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Nov 26, 2010 05:30 |  #13

I think that it would be a tough decision. On one hand, it's your cousin's wedding and you're not shooting for hire. Not to mention that I doubt that you want to seem like the disagreeable one in the family causing problems....plus it's a nice thing to do.
On the other hand, they are your photos and you should really be the creator of them from start to finish IMO. IMO, it would make the album more unique and special if each contributor created their own images.
If it were me, I guess I would hand over my completed JPG images to the person creating the album. Politely tell them that I prefer to create my images from start to finish.....if he wants to use them then that's great.....if not, well that's his call. I would then provide the images to the bride and groom since that's who you were really shooting for in the first place.




  
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Nov 26, 2010 06:03 |  #14

Pride is at stake, don't do it. No doubt if they are good he'll try and take the credit.

PP em yourself and send him the jpegs.


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Nov 26, 2010 07:10 |  #15

Personally I wouldn't give up my RAW files as I would prefer my work to remain mine and have my "look" to it (ie fairly low amounts of editing as I like the natural look). I would not allow anyone else to edit them unless I knew from previous experience they would be of a similar mind.

Give him your processed Jpegs - then it is up to him.


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