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Nov 26, 2010 12:44 |  #1

First DPP

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The LR3 version seems to have more detail.

Does any one find the Jaggies around the windows better or worse with either version?

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Nov 27, 2010 08:41 |  #2

Contrast is quite different...

More "different" then "better" at this size.


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Nov 27, 2010 20:52 |  #3

the exposure adjustments seem roughly the same... LR3 has quite a bit more sharpening though. my eyes like the LR3 version, though for sharpening I would do an Unsharp Mask in PS rather than using LR3's built in sharpening.


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Nov 28, 2010 04:45 |  #4

Thanks I have Lightroom 3 on trial just now so just seeing how it is, I had Elements 8 on trial previously, can only afford one or the other at the moment so trying to work out what suits me best at the moment. I like the work flow in LR3.

Going back to the jaggies do either of you think the jaggies in the above pictures is anything to worry about or is there room for improvement?

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Nov 29, 2010 06:21 |  #5

Another couple of questions does input sharpening effect resizing? I.e. if you want to resize an image to 900x657 do you have to use more/less input sharpening, does final size effect output sharpening i.e. for small size use high/low sharpening.


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Nov 29, 2010 07:22 |  #6

match14 wrote in post #11362633 (external link)
Another couple of questions does input sharpening effect resizing? I.e. if you want to resize an image to 900x657 do you have to use more/less input sharpening, does final size effect output sharpening i.e. for small size use high/low sharpening.

I believe jaggies is from the image size compression. The photo viewed at 25% or a multiple of it should have no "jaggies". At least thats how it works on my screen.


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Nov 29, 2010 07:43 |  #7

match14 wrote in post #11362633 (external link)
Another couple of questions does input sharpening effect resizing? I.e. if you want to resize an image to 900x657 do you have to use more/less input sharpening, does final size effect output sharpening i.e. for small size use high/low sharpening.

The other way around, downsizing effects sharpness, reducing it. That is why LR has two levels of overall sharpening; capture (input) sharpening in the Develop module which is intended to only be partial sharpening, just enough to cancel out the effect of the camera's AA filter, and output sharpening in the Export dialog which is interactive, adjusting itself to vary the sharpening according to the amount of resizing.


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Nov 29, 2010 08:51 |  #8

So lets see if I have got this right, you set input sharpening on the detail panel in the develop module to cancel out the effect of AA filter, and those settings remain the same regardless of whether or not you plan to resize the image or not. Then you apply the output sharpening in the export panel and it should output the appropriate level of sharpening based on the size you selected and the low standard and high setting?


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Nov 29, 2010 09:14 |  #9

I see differences, but thats your choice when processing. Either software is perfectly capable of recreating the other product. Any differences are entirely down to you.


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Nov 29, 2010 09:16 |  #10

match14 wrote in post #11363044 (external link)
So lets see if I have got this right, you set input sharpening on the detail panel in the develop module to cancel out the effect of AA filter, and those settings remain the same regardless of whether or not you plan to resize the image or not. Then you apply the output sharpening in the export panel and it should output the appropriate level of sharpening based on the size you selected and the low standard and high setting?

Sure, pretty much -- of course it's all a matter of taste for your intended output -- I'm not much of a stickler for what I put out for the Web for personal and "broad" display, but for something like "serious printing" that's a whole other matter...


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Dec 02, 2010 07:25 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #11

Ok thanks for your help everyone.


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