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Should I get another Elinchrom D-Lite 4?

 
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Nov 30, 2010 15:36 |  #1

I'm going to setup a small studio 4,5m x 6,5m x 3,5m
Having an D-lite 4 To Go Set, I consider to buy 2 more lights.

Should I buy another D-Lite 4/ D-Lite 2 or BX Ri 500 set or save to get monolights like QUADRA, RX?




  
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Nov 30, 2010 16:15 |  #2

just fyi... quadra, rx arent monolights, d-lites are...

id go for d-lites.. for money saving.. unless what you shoot requires the benefits of pack/head setups


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Dec 01, 2010 14:28 as a reply to  @ Fureinku's post |  #3

Is the BX Ri worth the money compare to D-lite 4?




  
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Dec 01, 2010 16:17 |  #4

DANG_BLUE wrote in post #11377398 (external link)
Is the BX Ri worth the money compare to D-lite 4?

They come with a built in skyport, so if that is your triggering system then you can avoid buying another receiver by going with the BX Ri's....


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Dec 01, 2010 16:26 |  #5

Fureinku wrote in post #11371840 (external link)
just fyi... quadra, rx arent monolights, d-lites are...

id go for d-lites.. for money saving.. unless what you shoot requires the benefits of pack/head setups

The RX series certainly are monolights. There's a 300RX, 600RX and 1200RX. Then there is the Ranger RX series packs.


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Dec 02, 2010 14:55 as a reply to  @ TMR Design's post |  #6

The saler at Elinchrom store has advised me to buy another D-lite 4 instead of BX Ri 500/500.
I wonder if D-lite 4 (25-400Ws) and BX Ri 500 (31-500Ws) are too much power for my small studio.

The problem is the price of BX Ri 500/500 Set now is cheaper than BX Ri 250/500 Set because of discount on 500/500 :(




  
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Dec 07, 2010 13:08 |  #7

Now I consider between:
1. Buy 500/500 Set
2. Buy 2/4 DliteIT Set + octa 135 + 2 x reflector 21cm (for background)

What should I do?




  
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Dec 07, 2010 13:24 |  #8

I have the 500/500 and yes its probably too much power for a small room. I am shooting at f11 or more on the lowest setting. But they are great when going against the sun.


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Dec 07, 2010 13:41 |  #9

sigma pi wrote in post #11411300 (external link)
I have the 500/500 and yes its probably too much power for a small room. I am shooting at f11 or more on the lowest setting. But they are great when going against the sun.

Huh? I have a pretty small home studio and use a pair of 600RX's for my main and fill (plus 1-3 Dlite-4's for background and hair/accent lighting). Even when just using my two 600RX's, I'm not getting f11 at the lowest settings. I'm often using medium to large octas with diffusers for modifiers, but I might have one light set to 3.5 and another set to 2.5 to get f8-f11.


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Dec 08, 2010 15:29 |  #10

Is Flash Duration (1/800 of D-lite4 vs 1/5000 of BXRi500) is a big problem to photograph people jumping?




  
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Dec 08, 2010 15:53 |  #11

DANG_BLUE wrote in post #11418214 (external link)
Is Flash Duration (1/800 of D-lite4 vs 1/5000 of BXRi500) is a big problem to photograph people jumping?

Its more like 1/1500, but yeah the faster the duration the better freezing capabilities the strobe have. :)


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Dec 08, 2010 16:15 |  #12

kokakaste2 wrote in post #11418320 (external link)
Its more like 1/1500, but yeah the faster the duration the better freezing capabilities the strobe have. :)

Sorry, I mean 1/1500 :D
But 1/800 vs 1/1500 is much different for shooting jumping people?




  
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Dec 08, 2010 16:25 |  #13

Dunno don't have either of them, but sometimes the Quadra 1/3000 is not enough to freeze flying objects :) depends how fast the action is. If you have Elinchrom shop near by go and visit them, try them out :)


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Dec 08, 2010 21:24 |  #14

DANG_BLUE wrote in post #11418463 (external link)
Sorry, I mean 1/1500 :D
But 1/800 vs 1/1500 is much different for shooting jumping people?

I've found it to make a significant difference. However, I had the person spinning instead of jumping and the faster flash duration reduced motion blur quite a bit. Since you have a Dlite4 try taking a photo and see if the flash duration suffices. If not then consider the BXRi.




  
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Dec 18, 2010 17:30 |  #15

emitecaps wrote in post #11419945 (external link)
I've found it to make a significant difference. However, I had the person spinning instead of jumping and the faster flash duration reduced motion blur quite a bit. Since you have a Dlite4 try taking a photo and see if the flash duration suffices. If not then consider the BXRi.

I've tried shooting jumping model with Dlite-4. The result was quite blur, especially at hands and legs. But I still went for another D-lite Set instead of BXRi because I can add 135cm octa, 2 x 21cm reflector, honeygrid.

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