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Apr 01, 2011 01:34 |  #1696

Hatch1921 wrote in post #12129399 (external link)
Just coming up with this off the top of my head...

So say you offer 500 shares and each share is an hour ...so 500 hours of shooting time. You average daily rate right goes for $150 an hour but since you are offering a discount for prepaid hours... you sell those blocks @ $75 an hour. That's $37.5K The client would get 50% off buying the hours in this manner. They can use them anytime during the year or gift the hours? Mom and Dad buy the bride a 10hr block... Mothers to be buy 6 hours and spread the sessions over the year documenting the kids...etc. Of course you have to give a lot of thought to your taxes, gas, equipment, time shooting/time processing... etc. But.. this is almost like a Groupon deal where you don't give Groupon 50% of the cut?

I can't see a true subscription based business for the independent photographer. If you were a large studio and you said for $29.99 a month... we will shoot you for "X" amount of times in the year with a savings of "X"... it might work if you can turn over a large volume of customers..something like the Picture People if they are around... but with a subscription?

I don't fully see the big picture in all of this...

Hmmmm
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The thing to watch out for is what services are being offered in the subscription. I would exclude weddings and maybe some other types of shoots. Doing a 10 hour wedding for $750 is really really cheap (I'm assuming the subscription only covers the sitting costs - prints, digital images, gallery wraps, and album/books are not included in the price - at least I wouldn't include them in the subscription).




  
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Apr 01, 2011 01:45 |  #1697

JmprSteve wrote in post #12136274 (external link)
The thing to watch out for is what services are being offered in the subscription. I would exclude weddings and maybe some other types of shoots. Doing a 10 hour wedding for $750 is really really cheap (I'm assuming the subscription only covers the sitting costs - prints, digital images, gallery wraps, and album/books are not included in the price - at least I wouldn't include them in the subscription).


Was just tossing the idea out there... as the article was interesting. You would have to lock in to specifics as you mentioned. Pretty much like Groupon... you get "X,Y,Z" when you buy the time or if can only be used for "X".....

Scheduling would be a challenge as well. I want to to Vegas for a weekend but the client can only use the blocks of time the same weekend.


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Apr 01, 2011 02:06 |  #1698

Boy April is starting out nicely...

"Meet The Member" article in our aviation-photography society newsletter (plus the cover!)

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Apr 01, 2011 08:41 |  #1699

Congrats, Jay. That's really cool.


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Apr 01, 2011 13:50 |  #1700

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #12136364 (external link)
Boy April is starting out nicely...

*hops in*
congrats jay! :D
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Apr 01, 2011 14:11 |  #1701

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hahah luv it!

:) Thanks... journaling the day...

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #12136364 (external link)
Boy April is starting out nicely...

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Woo Hoo!! Congrats! Well deserved. :)


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Apr 01, 2011 14:37 as a reply to  @ Kristy's post |  #1702

Congrats Jay!


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Apr 01, 2011 14:38 |  #1703

BrianAZ wrote in post #12137293 (external link)
Congrats, Jay. That's really cool.

lilminijpc wrote in post #12139046 (external link)
*hops in*
congrats jay! :D
*poof mia again*

Kristy wrote in post #12139184 (external link)
:) Thanks... journaling the day...


Woo Hoo!! Congrats! Well deserved. :)

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Congrats Jay!

Thanks All! :D


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Apr 01, 2011 14:53 |  #1704

First Friday tonight... Downtown Phoenix...

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Apr 01, 2011 15:05 |  #1705

Kristy wrote in post #12139469 (external link)
First Friday tonight... Downtown Phoenix...

http://phoenix.about.c​om/cs/enter/a/firstfri​day.htm (external link)

I think it is good that we post events so others know about things to go see and take pictures at, it's fun and good for everyone.

Thank you for posting this Kristy and Sundevilstorming for the Air show/open house thing in Mesa.

FYI on the First Friday event, sometimes a gallery or studio owner would rather you DIDN'T take photos of any of the artwork, sometimes they can get really angry about it.

So, I would say, ask first and expect a lot of "no pictures please" responses . . .

Maybe that is just my experience, YMMV.


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Apr 01, 2011 15:54 |  #1706

Inside galleries, yes I can agree - but outside fairgame (as far as I am concerned!)


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Apr 01, 2011 16:25 |  #1707

ToferPhotography wrote in post #12139889 (external link)
Inside galleries, yes I can agree - but outside fairgame (as far as I am concerned!)

I would say, "that's obvious, but then again, I'm oblivious" so, you never know . . .

See what I did there? with the obvious and oblivious . . .


on a side note: Nice job Jay.


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Apr 01, 2011 16:29 as a reply to  @ AZAlphaDog's post |  #1708

Thanks Doug.

I would say simply respect the fact that another artist sweated blood over their work just like we do over photography and act accordingly.

Personally, I'd try to get the artist to pose with their work if they're on hand.


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Apr 01, 2011 17:07 |  #1709

If anyone is still interested in the CPP path....

Important Changes to the CPP Image Submission Review

The Professional Photographic Certification Commission will institute changes to the CPP Image Submission Review, beginning with the June 24, 2011 review period.

The April 22, 2011 CPP Image Submission Review will be the last review that will not require the compulsory images. There will be no exceptions.

Beginning June 24, 2011, all portfolios (CPP candidates and re-certifying CPPs) will require the completion of a compulsory section of 6 images, showing standardized technical proficiency that all professional photographers, regardless of specialty, should know.

These images may come directly from client files or may be set up to demonstrate the technique that is required.
What are the compulsory images?

The compulsory section is comprised of 3 mandatory images and 3 elective images.
Mandatory Images

Image 1: Short lighting 3:1 ratio
This image will demonstrate proper lens selection and perspective with short lighting and a medium 3:1 lighting ratio.

Examples, based on your specialty:
Portrait Wedding Commercial Sports/Event
Closed or open loop; head shot Wedding portrait demonstrating short lighting Still life; product; food; model Individual portrait. Use of fill light or reflector to achieve 3:1 ratio.

Image 2: Broad lighting 3:1 ratio
This image will demonstrate proper lens selection and perspective with a broad lighting setup and a medium 3:1 lighting ratio.

Examples, based on your specialty:
Portrait Wedding Commercial Sports/Event
Closed or open loop; head shot Wedding portrait demonstrating broad lighting Still life; product; food; model Individual portrait. Use of fill light or reflector to achieve 3:1 ratio.

Image 3: Selective focus with minimal depth of field
This image will demonstrate how the viewer’s attention is impacted by selective focus.

Examples, based on your specialty:
Portrait Wedding Commercial Sports/Event
Creative use of selective focus. Close up Product photo; macro image Creative use of selective focus.
Elective Images 4, 5, and 6 (Choose 3 of the following)

* High Key Image
This image will demonstrate the proper technique in lighting a subject for a high key.
* Low Key Image
This image will demonstrate the proper technique in lighting a subject for a low key.
* Rule of Thirds
This image will demonstrate subject placement and organization.
* Use of Shape, Form, and Texture
This image will demonstrate these basic elements of art.
* Balance (symmetrical or asymmetrical)
This image will demonstrate the principles of balance achieved through subject size, placement, weight, or color.
* Color Harmony
This image will demonstrate the harmonious relationship of colors.
* "S" Curve Line
This image will demonstrate a "S" curve or feminine posing.
* Assertive, Angular, or Masculine Line
This image will demonstrate an assertive, angular, or masculine pose.
* Architectural
This image will demonstrate the commercial application of architectural photography. (Cannot be chosen for the portrait category.)

Submission Information

The first 6 images that you will upload will be the compulsory images. You will be provided with step-by-step instructions during the upload process for providing statements of purpose for these images. The remaining 14 images will come from your client work in the last 24 months, based on your specialty (or specialties percentages).

The CPP Certification judges will review the 6 compulsory images before reviewing the remainder of the body of work. If one of the compulsory images does not pass, the entire portfolio will not pass and the remaining 14 submitted images will not be reviewed. If the compulsory images did not pass, any feedback session will only discuss the compulsory portion of the portfolio.

Reminder: If you are seeking certification as a portrait or wedding photographer, do not submit "landscape" images. Commercial and event photographers may enter landscape images providing they were "commissioned and paid" and not images that were sold "after the fact."


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Apr 01, 2011 17:11 |  #1710

Quick ? Who do you guys use for business cards?

I've used WHCC and didn't like them...
ACI wasn't bad but I tried 4 different finishes and I can't recall which one I liked...


Any suggestions?
Hatch


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