70-200f/2.8IS mk2 bokeh inferior to mk1??? hmm

I've seen some people mentioning that their beloved 70-200 f/2.8IS mk2 has the same bokeh to mk1......i say NOT.

Yesterday I did some tests in my neighbourhood using my 5dmk2, 70-200 mk2 and a combination of ambient only and some fill flash.

I will say I am extremely happy with the insane sharpness/contrast wideopen with the mk2. However I am still extremely pleased with my former mk1.

I wont justify my $$beans$$ buying this lens. I am merely stating that with my experience with both version I will say mk1 ALWAYS had creamy bokeh regardless of contrast in the background.

When the background has little clutter the bokeh of mk2 is CREAMY/DREAMY but unfortunately I wont say that with many photos with a busy background.

I'm not nit picking just telling my views on the bokeh. In this photo this photo exhibits an interesting bokeh pattern.

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However in this photo the bokeh is dreamy

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This white lens is simply a tool. I love the versatility aswell as the ridiculous sharpness at f/2.8 wideopen. Shot after shot the accuracy was absolutely accurate and targeted quickly. Regardless of the "sharper" bokeh of the mk2 I still think its pleasing for the most part.

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Here are some of mine from the weekend using ver II.

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5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 24LmkII | 85 mkII L | | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji - gone
Sony 2 x A7iii w/ Sigma MC-11 adapter | GM16-35 f/2.8 | Sigma 24-70 ART | GM70-200 f/2.8 |Sigma Art 24 f/1.4 | Sigma ART 35 f/1.2 | FE85 f/1.8 | Sigma ART 105 f/1.4 | Godox V860iiS & V1S

yogestee wrote in post #11386615
To make an accurate comparision of bokeh between lenses and cameras you need to have the same focal length, aperture and camera to subject distance..

yes no doubt. However I can look at all of my mk1 pics and I dont have sharp bokeh.

5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 24LmkII | 85 mkII L | | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji - gone
Sony 2 x A7iii w/ Sigma MC-11 adapter | GM16-35 f/2.8 | Sigma 24-70 ART | GM70-200 f/2.8 |Sigma Art 24 f/1.4 | Sigma ART 35 f/1.2 | FE85 f/1.8 | Sigma ART 105 f/1.4 | Godox V860iiS & V1S

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yogestee wrote in post #11386651
Please define "sharp bokeh"??

Bokeh is the term ued to describe the quality not quantity of background blur.. It's also very subjective..To have sharp background blur is physically impossible..

please look at the father and son pic. The house in the background is kinda odd. Besides technical jargon regarding bokeh I think the background is not as creamy/smooth.

5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 24LmkII | 85 mkII L | | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji - gone
Sony 2 x A7iii w/ Sigma MC-11 adapter | GM16-35 f/2.8 | Sigma 24-70 ART | GM70-200 f/2.8 |Sigma Art 24 f/1.4 | Sigma ART 35 f/1.2 | FE85 f/1.8 | Sigma ART 105 f/1.4 | Godox V860iiS & V1S

AlanU wrote in post #11386667
please look at the father and son pic. The house in the background is kinda odd. Besides technical jargon regarding bokeh I think the background is not as creamy/smooth.

Compared to what??

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yogestee wrote in post #11386687
Compared to what??

mk1

5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 24LmkII | 85 mkII L | | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji - gone
Sony 2 x A7iii w/ Sigma MC-11 adapter | GM16-35 f/2.8 | Sigma 24-70 ART | GM70-200 f/2.8 |Sigma Art 24 f/1.4 | Sigma ART 35 f/1.2 | FE85 f/1.8 | Sigma ART 105 f/1.4 | Godox V860iiS & V1S

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themadman wrote in post #11386745
Different distances from subject and different focal lengths will affect how the blur looks. Without the two lenses side by side with the same subject at the same distance at the same focal length, etc, you can't really make a judgment.

True enough. Perhaps if I have an abundance of time I'll test my mk1 (sold to friend) with the mk2.

I hope I'm just being overly critical.

5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 24LmkII | 85 mkII L | | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji - gone
Sony 2 x A7iii w/ Sigma MC-11 adapter | GM16-35 f/2.8 | Sigma 24-70 ART | GM70-200 f/2.8 |Sigma Art 24 f/1.4 | Sigma ART 35 f/1.2 | FE85 f/1.8 | Sigma ART 105 f/1.4 | Godox V860iiS & V1S

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