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Dec 05, 2010 04:00 |  #1

C & C is much appreciated.

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Dec 05, 2010 04:07 |  #2

I like the overall look but there are a few points that need addressing.
1. The images (at least on my laptop) are a little too cool, try adding a smidge of 85B to warm up the skin tones.
2. The rights are at the wrong angle in relation to his face causing heavy reflections on the glasses, and putting the shadows at an awkward angle in relation to the nose. Raise them up some and use a ratio that is better pleasing to the eye.
3. Level your camera.
4. For persons of some girth (of which I am one as well. raise the camera, don't shoot with the subjects tummy centered on the frame.


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Dec 05, 2010 06:39 as a reply to  @ LBaldwin's post |  #3

I love #5, it's awesome!


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Dec 05, 2010 11:03 |  #4

LBaldwin wrote in post #11397874 (external link)
I like the overall look but there are a few points that need addressing.
1. The images (at least on my laptop) are a little too cool, try adding a smidge of 85B to warm up the skin tones.
2. The rights are at the wrong angle in relation to his face causing heavy reflections on the glasses, and putting the shadows at an awkward angle in relation to the nose. Raise them up some and use a ratio that is better pleasing to the eye.
3. Level your camera.
4. For persons of some girth (of which I am one as well. raise the camera, don't shoot with the subjects tummy centered on the frame.

Thanks for your post I do appreciate it.

1) I am sorry what do you mean 85b?

Peter- Thank you

2) I am glad you brought that up. I was going to ask but I forgot to put it in. How does one minimize reflections in the glasses? Are you saying that if the light is coming from above it will do so?




  
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Dec 05, 2010 19:12 |  #5

Love the last two...and the colors need to pop just a little more,


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Dec 05, 2010 22:09 |  #6

domat wrote in post #11398872 (external link)
Thanks for your post I do appreciate it.

1) I am sorry what do you mean 85b?

Peter- Thank you

2) I am glad you brought that up. I was going to ask but I forgot to put it in. How does one minimize reflections in the glasses? Are you saying that if the light is coming from above it will do so?

85B is a warming filter. The white balance seems a bit on the cool side. Adding in a bit of a warmer (more towards yellow) color would make these portraits more inviting.

And yes, raising the light a bit higher with folks that have glasses changes reflective angle and you won't see the light source. Most of the time you don't have to raise it too far up. Maybe another 6 inches helps out. But each pair of glasses are different.

Most of the time light sources come from above and so in a portrait having the light come in from higher than the subject tends to feels more "natural."

I also would have pulled the subjects away from the back ground. While an important part of the image, I would have liked to see the BG less in focus.

And in the 4th image you cropped Jesus' head in half. That's a pretty bad mistake. Especially to these guys. I'm going to say that these two gentelmen are Catholic priests. Splitting the head of the son of God ruins that image. Taking another step back and/or shooting a bit lower or shooting it as a verticle would have solved that.


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Dec 06, 2010 00:23 |  #7

Yes a 85b filter is warming, it will reduce some of the blue. It is built into PS.

Sometimes, no matter what you do you will get unwanted reflections in the glasses. So having a pair with no lenses may be a good idea.

Generally try not to use hair light on thinning domes LOL. I also agree that the subject is to close to the BG.


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Dec 06, 2010 11:37 |  #8

ChasWG wrote in post #11402016 (external link)
85B is a warming filter. The white balance seems a bit on the cool side. Adding in a bit of a warmer (more towards yellow) color would make these portraits more inviting.

And yes, raising the light a bit higher with folks that have glasses changes reflective angle and you won't see the light source. Most of the time you don't have to raise it too far up. Maybe another 6 inches helps out. But each pair of glasses are different.

Most of the time light sources come from above and so in a portrait having the light come in from higher than the subject tends to feels more "natural."

I also would have pulled the subjects away from the back ground. While an important part of the image, I would have liked to see the BG less in focus.

And in the 4th image you cropped Jesus' head in half. That's a pretty bad mistake. Especially to these guys. I'm going to say that these two gentelmen are Catholic priests. Splitting the head of the son of God ruins that image. Taking another step back and/or shooting a bit lower or shooting it as a verticle would have solved that.

Thanks or your input. Can't believe I didn't notice that I cut Jesus in half until you mentioned it.

I should have taken some pictures with him further away you guys are right.. It is up on a stage so couldn't have had him more then a couple of feet further then he is now.




  
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Dec 06, 2010 13:04 |  #9

well maybe you can have a second go at it. From my experience, these guys are pretty understanding. It's kind of what they do. ;) Ask if you can have a do over.


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Dec 06, 2010 14:33 |  #10

They are great. My only suggestion would be to try to get some warmer ambient light into the background. If you're using a strobe, your aperture sets the exposure for your subject, the shutter does for the ambient light. Try a longer shutter speed to let in more of the ambient light. He's lit almost perfectly, but the altar is in the dark, some ambient light would have warmed and added some light. Experiment.




  
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Dec 06, 2010 14:50 |  #11

dead links?


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Dec 06, 2010 15:25 |  #12

kjonnnn wrote in post #11405300 (external link)
They are great. My only suggestion would be to try to get some warmer ambient light into the background. If you're using a strobe, your aperture sets the exposure for your subject, the shutter does for the ambient light. Try a longer shutter speed to let in more of the ambient light. He's lit almost perfectly, but the altar is in the dark, some ambient light would have warmed and added some light. Experiment.

Very good suggestion. I know this of course, though it doesn't mean I think about it and do it when I am taking these photos:) Have to learn to slow down and not rush when I do these. At least until everything becomes habit.




  
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Dec 06, 2010 15:27 |  #13

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I updated the pics in my flickr pages with ones I tried to fix. Hope they are showing up for you now. If not they and several more are here.

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Dec 06, 2010 17:54 |  #14

I like the one you added. That archway really frames him and the nice dark BG really makes him pop. Very well done!


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Dec 07, 2010 09:03 |  #15

ChasWG wrote in post #11406366 (external link)
I like the one you added. That archway really frames him and the nice dark BG really makes him pop. Very well done!

Thank You I really Like that one as well.

Also do you guys think these pictures could use some more sharpening? These right now have not been sharpened.




  
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