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Dec 05, 2010 18:53 |  #31

TTIWWP.


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Dec 05, 2010 19:14 |  #32

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #11400994 (external link)
TTIWWP.

I disagree.

The actual picture is unnecessary. The discussion is about whether to display a picture that someone doesn't want online and has requested to be taken down, to avoid embarrasment.

Given the circumstances, I don't see why the picture should get further publication and display, just to satisfy your desire to see it.




  
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Dec 05, 2010 21:26 |  #33

Sorry everyone, I didn't mean for this to turn into a debate. I was just looking for advice from level-headed individuals with more experience in these types of situations than myself. I appreciate all your help and advice. I removed the photo from my Facebook page, but I am sending him an email expressing that I did not appreciate his approach in contacting me under false pretenses, and if he had a request he could have just asked from the start.

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I think your being vague. Just because you 'thought' he wanted pictures taken.. doesn't mean he lied. He probably just asked if he can call you in the initial email. You assumed he wanted pics taken. If the phone call would've been anything like his second email.. he probably would've just asked you nicely to take it down and given you a couple reasons why. (maybe she's a teacher, or has kids that could see it.. or has a job that it could affect)

No, he specifically said he was interested in having photo's taken.

This is the first email:

Hello I was looking to talk over the phone not through messages about getting pictures taken. Please call me at (number omitted) thank you


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Dec 05, 2010 21:40 |  #34

Here's what I would do:

Tell the guy that you want to directly talk to the girlfriend. Then tell her you will gladly remove the photo from your facebook and offer her a photo shoot at a discount rate.

1. You come off as a nice guy,
2. She'll tell her friends that you're legit (possible client)
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Dec 05, 2010 22:29 |  #35

TattooedAffliction wrote in post #11401790 (external link)
No, he specifically said he was interested in having photo's taken.

This is the first email: Hello I was looking to talk over the phone not through messages about getting pictures taken. Please call me at (number omitted) thank you

To be honest, that is pretty vague. Some people don't have very good grammar and he could easily have meant that he wanted to talk about [the girls] getting pictures taken [at the event]. In other words, he wanted to talk about them having had their pictures taken and just put it in an ambiguous manner, which was misinterpreted.

Then, when you enquired what he wanted taken, he replied and clarified the situation. I don't think he was trying to mislead you, he just used a poor choice of words that didn't clearly show he was talking in the past tense.

You have done the right thing taking the images down, but I wouldn't accuse him of false pretences as that will just cause ill feeling, if that wasn't what he intended. I agree that it would have been simpler to just send the second e-mail, first, but I can understand why he would want to discuss it nicely, rather than send a short impersonal e-mail just asking you to remove them.

I don't see any wrong here on either side, he asked nicely and you agreed. two decent people coming to an amicable agreement. I wouldn't send that e-mail and spoil it now.




  
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Dec 05, 2010 22:29 |  #36

Yeah that first email is super bizarre, and I can't stand people who play games. I'd grit my teeth, roll my eyes and take it down - it's for the better


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Dec 05, 2010 22:30 |  #37

sandpiper wrote in post #11402095 (external link)
To be honest, that is pretty vague. Some people don't have very good grammar and he could easily have meant that he wanted to talk about [the girls] getting pictures taken [at the event]. In other words, he wanted to talk about them having had their pictures taken and just put it in an ambiguous manner, which was misinterpreted.


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Really? What is this, Ad-libs?


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Dec 05, 2010 22:31 |  #38

omg drama

just take it down and shutup

it doesn't benefit you anything


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Dec 05, 2010 22:39 |  #39

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:lol:

Really? What is this, Ad-libs?

I'm not sure I get the reference, is that an American programme?

All I am doing is pointing out if you read his e-mail in the past tense, it makes sense as he was wanting to talk about them "getting pictures taken" at the nightclub.

That might not be how he meant it, and the conspiracy theorists may be right and he was playing games. I just see it as far more likely that he was using the past tense and describing what happened, which he wanted to discuss, rather than playing some obscure game and lying about wanting to get pictures taken in the future.

Surely, he would realise that starting off by lying about wanting to have pictures taken would only put the OP offside and make him less likely to agree to the request.

Do you seriously believe that it is more likely that he was spinning a tale which could only backfire on him, than simply speaking in the past tense?




  
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Dec 05, 2010 22:40 as a reply to  @ nonameowns's post |  #40

No photo that depicts someone in a bad light is good for your portfolio unless your business is to be a candid camera photographer.

I took a photo of a mom and her kid that's priceless. The mom tries to kiss the kid and the kid pulls away and makes a face. As great as that photo is, there's no way it gets displayed in my portfolio. My deal is to portray people in a positive light and I find it tends to be a good business practice. Taking it down was a good move.


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Dec 06, 2010 00:39 |  #41

sandpiper wrote in post #11402095 (external link)
To be honest, that is pretty vague. Some people don't have very good grammar and he could easily have meant that he wanted to talk about [the girls] getting pictures taken [at the event]. In other words, he wanted to talk about them having had their pictures taken and just put it in an ambiguous manner, which was misinterpreted.

Then, when you enquired what he wanted taken, he replied and clarified the situation. I don't think he was trying to mislead you, he just used a poor choice of words that didn't clearly show he was talking in the past tense.

You have done the right thing taking the images down, but I wouldn't accuse him of false pretences as that will just cause ill feeling, if that wasn't what he intended. I agree that it would have been simpler to just send the second e-mail, first, but I can understand why he would want to discuss it nicely, rather than send a short impersonal e-mail just asking you to remove them.

I don't see any wrong here on either side, he asked nicely and you agreed. two decent people coming to an amicable agreement. I wouldn't send that e-mail and spoil it now.


Ah yes, I see what you're saying. Looks like I may have completely misinterpreted what he was trying to convey in his first email. Unfortunately, I already sent him the email about it, but I tried to be as friendly as I could going as far as asking him to tell his girlfriend that I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused her. Hopefully he'll reply back so I can apologize if I did misinterpret what he meant :o


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Dec 06, 2010 01:38 |  #42

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No photo that depicts someone in a bad light is good for your portfolio unless your business is to be a candid camera photographer.

I took a photo of a mom and her kid that's priceless. The mom tries to kiss the kid and the kid pulls away and makes a face. As great as that photo is, there's no way it gets displayed in my portfolio. My deal is to portray people in a positive light and I find it tends to be a good business practice. Taking it down was a good move.

Sounds like a boring portfolio.


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Dec 06, 2010 02:03 |  #43

Crazy idea - if you don't want photos of you screwing around for the guy with the camera making out with another girl.....don't screw around for the camera making out with another girl. Just a thought!

Taking it down or not taking it down, it's up to you. There's too many people that would rip it down immediately trying to please everyone like they did something wrong by taking the image, no matter what the content is. There's others who keep it up because it's a good photo and say tough luck because you were doing your job documenting what the client wanted. It's in the end up to the individual photographer to make that decision.


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Dec 06, 2010 02:54 |  #44
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yah... just like ppl being responsible for their own actions... hahahah.... what ever happened to that...

oh well.... sometimes i wonder if my life would be easier if i was oblivious to everything and didnt know any better...


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Dec 06, 2010 04:35 as a reply to  @ saturnin's post |  #45

"discretion is the better part of valor" I was once told by a wise old man.

Good choice taking down the photo.


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