Am I undercharging?

SnapShot Photos wrote in post #11411301
thats fine, the shots are for his sales, I've known this guy for a while, he'll let me put them up in my site and use them, I don't really care if the rights are his.

How do you know he'll let you post them on your site? Guessing?

And you saying "I don't really care if the right are his" is showing you have little business knowledge about photography and rights. Should you be charging $175 per car, 4 cars a time if you are not aware of business issues? If he is paying you to shoot the cars, it's work for hire and the photos belong to him along with all rights unless otherwise specified. Whatever you agree upon, get it in writing and both of you sign it. If he owns the photos you cannot post them without his permission.

Money changing hands can change people's attitudes towards each other. And I can't see your web address to see what you're capable of shooting.

its in my sig..

I think it's a great price for what you are doing.

It comes down to your work-flow. If you can hammer them out very quickly then it should be good. That's hundreds of bucks in a day (that's all it should take). I've had enough experience in life to know that it doesn't matter if he's a friend, have it all in writing as you never know what can happen. A smart business man would always watch his back regardless of who he's dealing with.

I'll shoot for him for free if he give me one of the cars....just sayin'

I think that's reasonable for "For Sale" shots, & more than most of these guys expect to pay. Question on automobile shoots

I think you'd be better off doing at least one beauty shot in the early/late part of the day. It's less work & will look better, too. A few Car Lighting Tips - Updated

He requested HDR, like I said I can't control the time, he's driving them 50 hours

What you could do is make some panels out of cheap replacement diffusers for softboxes, put 'em together and use PVC for a frame. It's cheap and is quick to build if you know how to have them be held up. I might get some background stands for mine that I still need to build. It'll pay itself off after the first car for you.

?? lighting isn't an issue

It was just being talked about...not sure what you think Frank was just talking about then.

frank posts the lighting thread in every thread relating to someone being new at shooting auto.

I think you just don't understand. He mentioned shooting at different times of the day and you said you can't control the times that your friend comes over. If you're ever going to shoot in the day then you can make these panels to help you out. I hope you're not confused anymore.

I was never confused, I was responding to the times of the day, I have lighting under control. thanks.

SnapShot Photos wrote in post #11414155
its in my sig..

You might consider changing how your website is in your signature because I overlooked "The Framed Life" as being a link. Make it evident that it is a link or website and you'll likely get more visitors.

Though I did not see any photos of cars on your website.

I like it like this, I don't really care if people see it on here...and yeah there's no real photos of cars, when did I say I had experience shooting them? The client knows this.