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Dec 06, 2010 13:16 |  #1

Almost relatives, a family of four that I shot yesterday. Apart from the two lights on the background, just one subject light was used. Elinchrom 400BX with Mid-Octa @ f8. Tamron 28 -75.

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Dec 06, 2010 13:32 |  #2

Beautiful.
I just got my midi last week. Did you use the deflector?

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Dec 06, 2010 14:01 |  #3

Thank you Ralph, no I never used a deflector, just the inner and out diffusers supplied with it.

I'm not certain but I think recent octa's come with a deflector, but my 1-2 year old version came with an inner baffle.




  
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Dec 06, 2010 22:33 |  #4

I'm curious, as I have a rough time on the white seamless, what's that shadow in #1? Nice light in #2.


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Dec 07, 2010 00:16 |  #5

Although its easy to get a total white background, its not so easy with the foreground. The material used, although a white paper backdrop, is not that great in its reflective qualities, and so around the subject will come out as shades of grey. It will always be more obvious when compared directly with the (blown) background.
However, I have become to prefer it as it grounds the subject, if total white they would have the effect floating. Some use Plexiglas or similar for the base, but everyone to there own.

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Dec 07, 2010 06:31 |  #6

I thought I posted ....

Beautiful family ..... My only thing *I* would have done differently to balance the one of all 4 of them together more would have been to switch the position of the little girl and boy... would have been more eye-pleasing, to me... I think :)

i actually like the "grounding of the subject" in image 1... I totally get what you're going for


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Dec 07, 2010 13:01 |  #7

Thank you mom2AnH,
I agree about the positioning, It also struck me after posting. With similar shirts on it would have balanced better if the males were apart.




  
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Dec 07, 2010 17:29 |  #8

Just a couple more from the day.

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Dec 08, 2010 20:49 as a reply to  @ steveathome's post |  #9

Well I am glad to finally know its not just me :). I always look at the photo thinking ive done somthing wrong and well maybe I have but just as you the background gets really nice and white and the foreground not so much. What background material for white works best? Paper, Muslin, or Vinyl? I seem to get the best results with paper, muslin never turns out just right and haven't tried vinyl. What are your thoughts?

PS I really like the pose in the first one. Very nicely done.


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Dec 09, 2010 00:44 |  #10

Hello Michelle,
I have never used vinyl so cant really comment on that. The paper I use is "lastolite professional background paper".
There are plenty of threads here that can be searched on the subject, many have differing opinions by overexposing the background ranging from half a stop to many stops over the taking aperture.

If you want a total white out, I would experiment with what you have, making several different exposures and by using the one that uses the least to achieve 255,255,255 in Photoshop or similar.

You are never going to achieve that result for the foreground, it wouldn't look right in any case if you could. I believe you need a little shadow to make it look real.

Positioning of lighting can have a great effect too. If you think about it, the vertical part of the backdrop is going to return more light than the horizontal part, as generally the backdrop will be lit head on, whilst the foreground will be lit from an angle.

I am no expert on the subject, so will leave it there, but my examples above are a combination of lighting and a little Photoshop (at least where the foreground is on show).

Hope this helps.

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I took the above metering (incident) 0.8 over the shooting aperture of which turned out with this particular paper 3 stops (reflected). To be honest it needed just a little more for a better job, but it wasn't that far out that it couldn't be adjusted.




  
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Dec 09, 2010 17:51 |  #11

Last one, I promise.

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