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Dec 07, 2010 12:24 |  #1

Okay, so I'm ordering my 60D very soon, and I already have a 55-250mm. I got a deal on it so I snagged it before I bought my camera. I've been playing around with it on a friend's Rebel XSi, and my friend has told me that I can use his XSi kit lens (18-55mm IS) whenever I need it. Although eventually I'm going to need my own general purpose / walk around lens so I won't need to steal his 18-55mm all the time. What should I get? I'm willing to spend up to $600 (although the cheaper the better), because as I said, I can use his 18-55mm to start off, so I have some time to save up money.

I'm considering the EF-S 15-85mm, but browsing the forums a lot since I joined, I see that primes, specifically the 50mm 1.4, are pretty popular around here. Which if these two do you think would compliment the 55-250mm better? These are the only two lenses I'll have for a while.

I don't really have a direction for my photography yet. I got the 55-250 to be able to shoot friends playing paintball and soccer. The next lens I buy will just be for shooting things closer to me that I don't need such a large range to capture. Do you guys/girls think that I should go with a prime, or another (albeit shorter), zoom lens to complete my small lens collection for the time being?



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Dec 07, 2010 12:30 |  #2

Why not the 18-55 IS lens?


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Dec 07, 2010 12:36 |  #3

gasrocks wrote in post #11410990 (external link)
Why not the 18-55 IS lens?

I had considered it, but it seems sort of redundant to buy that, when I can use his 18-55 and save for either something with a different range, like the 15-85, or go for a prime. He and I will be sharing lenses a lot, so I don't think it really makes sense for me to buy the exact same lens.



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Dec 07, 2010 12:53 |  #4

ejackso1 wrote in post #11411029 (external link)
I had considered it, but it seems sort of redundant to buy that, when I can use his 18-55 and save for either something with a different range, like the 15-85, or go for a prime. He and I will be sharing lenses a lot, so I don't think it really makes sense for me to buy the exact same lens.

I can't say that I've tried the is version but many people say it's lEaps and bounds better than the non is in terms of iq




  
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Dec 07, 2010 12:54 |  #5

ejackso1 wrote in post #11411029 (external link)
I had considered it, but it seems sort of redundant to buy that, when I can use his 18-55 and save for either something with a different range, like the 15-85, or go for a prime. He and I will be sharing lenses a lot, so I don't think it really makes sense for me to buy the exact same lens.

no but it does make sense to use it a while and then you will be in a better position to know if you prefer spending more for a 2.8 zoom or a longer reach zoom like the 15-85 or a prime lens




  
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Dec 07, 2010 13:01 |  #6

Inst!nct wrote in post #11411109 (external link)
I can't say that I've tried the is version but many people say it's lEaps and bounds better than the non is in terms of iq

The XSi's kit lens is the 18-55mm IS, unless I'm missing something?

watt100 wrote in post #11411118 (external link)
no but it does make sense to use it a while and then you will be in a better position to know if you prefer spending more for a 2.8 zoom or a longer reach zoom like the 15-85 or a prime lens

Yeah, that's the thing, I don't know what I want to go for. I've used both the 18-55 IS and the 55-250 IS on his XSi, but neither of us have a prime, so I've never used a prime.

I'm trying to decide if a prime would be a good walk-around lens, or if I'd like a bit of zoom (like the 15-85 would offer) while I'm walking around.



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Dec 07, 2010 13:18 as a reply to  @ ejackso1's post |  #7

I would consider the Tamron 17-50mm (either the VC version or non-VC model which is said to have better IQ).

I shoot with a Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS and a Canon 70-200mm f/4L is lens on 1.6x cameras and find that focal range quite versatile.

The longer focal range lenses 17-85mm and up have the advantage of a wider focal range but, the Tamron has the constant f/2.8 aperture which is, IMO,more important (especially since you have the longer focal ranges covered quite well with your 55-250mm lens).


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Dec 07, 2010 13:34 |  #8

If you do decide to use a prime for a walk around I would look at the 28-30 mm focal range rather than 50. 50 mm is too long for a walk around prime in my opinion.


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Dec 07, 2010 13:36 |  #9

You'd be better off with the Tamron 17-50 2.8 non-VC. It's better than the kit lens. Used around $300.


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Dec 07, 2010 14:29 |  #10

RPCrowe wrote in post #11411253 (external link)
The longer focal range lenses 17-85mm and up have the advantage of a wider focal range but, the Tamron has the constant f/2.8 aperture which is, IMO,more important (especially since you have the longer focal ranges covered quite well with your 55-250mm lens).

Very true. I was considering the 15-85 because it was f/3.5 and still has a pretty decent range.

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You'd be better off with the Tamron 17-50 2.8 non-VC. It's better than the kit lens. Used around $300.

Thanks guys, I'll look into the 17-50 Tamron. Looks like I'll need to start looking at more than just Canon lenses when I'm in the market for a lens.

Jeff81 wrote in post #11411375 (external link)
If you do decide to use a prime for a walk around I would look at the 28-30 mm focal range rather than 50. 50 mm is too long for a walk around prime in my opinion.

This is true. I know when I have the 55-250 at 55mm, it's a pain shooting closer subjects.

but I do like the results I'm seeing from the 50 1.4. I think first I'm going to look into getting the 17-50 Tamron, and then later down the road try to acquire a 50 1.4. Thanks for all the help so far guys. If anyone else has another suggestion, feel free to chime in. I'm reading through reviews at the moment.



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Dec 07, 2010 15:18 |  #11

For a crop camera walk around:

Standard Zoom:
18-55 IS is good, Tamron 17-50 2.8(VC or not) is better, Canon 17-55mm 2.8 IS is best

A prime:
Sigma 30mm 1.4

More Range:
Canon 15-85mm


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Dec 07, 2010 15:20 |  #12

ejackso1 wrote in post #11411029 (external link)
I had considered it, but it seems sort of redundant to buy that, when I can use his 18-55 and save for either something with a different range, like the 15-85, or go for a prime. He and I will be sharing lenses a lot, so I don't think it really makes sense for me to buy the exact same lens.

It is honestly better to have your own instead of having to borrow your friend's every time...

But if you want to spend more, maybe the Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS HSM?

http://www.adorama.com​/SG1750EOS.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …1_17_50mm_F2_8_​EX_DC.html (external link)


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Dec 07, 2010 16:01 |  #13

Green_Tea wrote in post #11412004 (external link)
For a crop camera walk around:

Standard Zoom:
18-55 IS is good, Tamron 17-50 2.8(VC or not) is better, Canon 17-55mm 2.8 IS is best

A prime:
Sigma 30mm 1.4

More Range:
Canon 15-85mm

Yeah, the 17-55mm 2.8 IS is definitely out of my price range. It's looking like it will be between the Tamron 17-50 and the Canon 15-85. Pretty sure it'll be the Tamron, since, as RPCrowe said, I have zoom covered with my 55-250 and should go for f/2.8.

themadman wrote in post #11412015 (external link)
It is honestly better to have your own instead of having to borrow your friend's every time...

But if you want to spend more, maybe the Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS HSM?

http://www.adorama.com​/SG1750EOS.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …1_17_50mm_F2_8_​EX_DC.html (external link)

Well I said "friend" to simplify my post. My "friend" I was referring to is actually my Dad's girlfriend's son's, so I live with him (unless I'm at my Mom's house, which is only a mere mile or two away from my Dad's house anyway). It won't be much of an issue to borrow from him when I go out.

If I can find the Tamron 15-70 for around $300 used as avantcoreVB said, then I'll only be saving for around three weeks or so anyway. That Sigma is just a bit more than I'm willing to spend. I don't want to go over $600, and the cheaper the better as I only make around $100/week.



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Dec 07, 2010 16:07 |  #14

ejackso1 wrote in post #11412261 (external link)
Yeah, the 17-55mm 2.8 IS is definitely out of my price range. It's looking like it will be between the Tamron 17-50 and the Canon 15-85. Pretty sure it'll be the Tamron, since, as RPCrowe said, I have zoom covered with my 55-250 and should go for f/2.8.

Well I said "friend" to simplify my post. My "friend" I was referring to is actually my Dad's girlfriend's son's, so I live with him (unless I'm at my Mom's house, which is only a mere mile or two away from my Dad's house anyway). It won't be much of an issue to borrow from him when I go out.

and that Sigma is just a bit more than I'm willing to spend. I don't want to go over $600, and the cheaper the better as I only make around $100/week.

The only concern I have with the Tamron is it doesn't have IS so be careful at lower shutter speeds. Enjoy your photography!


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Dec 07, 2010 16:17 |  #15

I have the 16-85 (Nikon) and really like the flexibility


(or maybe I just really DON'T like changing out lenses when its windy and dusty lol)


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