I'm doing a basic D-SLR photography class for some moms in my area. I'm wanting to have an official legal contract regarding the class as well.
Anyone have a sample they could send me???
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SnapsbyPoteat Senior Member 985 posts Joined Aug 2007 Location: Northwest Arkansas More info | Dec 08, 2010 16:30 | #1 I'm doing a basic D-SLR photography class for some moms in my area. I'm wanting to have an official legal contract regarding the class as well. Gear list: Canon 5D Mk II, 7D tokina 11-16/2.8, Sigma 30 1.4 , Canon 50 1.2 L, 85 1.8,100 2.8 L macro, 580ex,
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Josh101 Senior Member 393 posts Joined May 2007 More info | Dec 08, 2010 17:12 | #2 What do you need a contract for? is it a contract for an event or services, a contract that specifies the cost and what the class entails, a contract saying taht if anyone is injured during the class that your not at fault? There are a thousands of contracts relating to photography and/or educational instruction, please specify what exactly you are looking for as your question is rather broad. Gear List. | Joshua O'Neill Photography
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SnapsbyPoteat THREAD STARTER Senior Member 985 posts Joined Aug 2007 Location: Northwest Arkansas More info | Dec 08, 2010 17:46 | #3 Well I'm resting in the hopes that someone out there is willing to help a fellow photographer- I know not every photographer has had a lawyer draft up their contracts. Gear list: Canon 5D Mk II, 7D tokina 11-16/2.8, Sigma 30 1.4 , Canon 50 1.2 L, 85 1.8,100 2.8 L macro, 580ex,
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kaydawgy Member 160 posts Joined Jan 2010 More info | Dec 08, 2010 19:53 | #4 I have a book with a cd for photography contracts. I'll see if there is anything for your needs. Canon 7d gripped, Canon 550d gripped, Canon 17-55mm, Canon 50mm 1.4, Canon 28-135mm, Tokina 11-16mm, Sigma speedlite DG-ST 530, Yongnuo 560 (x2) and 460
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chakalakasp Senior Member 809 posts Likes: 9 Joined Jun 2006 More info | Dec 08, 2010 19:57 | #5 SnapsbyPoteat wrote in post #11418953 Well I'm resting in the hopes that someone out there is willing to help a fellow photographer- I know not every photographer has had a lawyer draft up their contracts. Don't take this personally -- but that's stupid. If you need a contract drawn up, get a legal professional to draw one up based on the law in your area. If you're really cheap, go on Amazon and buy one of those books full of boilerplate contracts. Asking fellow photographers to draft up your legal documents is penny-wise, pound-foolish. Ryan McGinnis
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kaydawgy Member 160 posts Joined Jan 2010 More info | Dec 08, 2010 22:17 | #6 chakalakasp wrote in post #11419559 Don't take this personally -- but that's stupid. If you need a contract drawn up, get a legal professional to draw one up based on the law in your area. If you're really cheap, go on Amazon and buy one of those books full of boilerplate contracts. Asking fellow photographers to draft up your legal documents is penny-wise, pound-foolish. I don't think he's asking for us to do his dirty work for him. He's just asking if anybody happen to have some sort of template already built for a case similar to his that could just easily be emailed to him. I thought the whole idea of POTN was to help fellow photographers out, not lash at them! Canon 7d gripped, Canon 550d gripped, Canon 17-55mm, Canon 50mm 1.4, Canon 28-135mm, Tokina 11-16mm, Sigma speedlite DG-ST 530, Yongnuo 560 (x2) and 460
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Fernando Goldmember 1,628 posts Likes: 6 Joined Jan 2007 Location: Round Rock, TX More info | Dec 08, 2010 22:58 | #7 SnapsbyPoteat wrote in post #11418953 Well I'm resting in the hopes that someone out there is willing to help a fellow photographer- I know not every photographer has had a lawyer draft up their contracts. I've done a search on the web and have my own wedding & portrait contracts but I haven't found anything related to educational purposes. And yes I am wanting something that states what the details of the class are (where I can add my own details there), that materials given/learned are not to be sold/shared etc & the cost for the class and also something regarding the lines that I am no expert on photography but just simply sharing knowledge that I have learned over the years. If no one is willing to help, I guess I can draft up my own. Ah the irony. Fuji convert - Ping me if you have any Fuji gear or legacy glass you're moving.
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chakalakasp Senior Member 809 posts Likes: 9 Joined Jun 2006 More info | Dec 09, 2010 00:01 | #8 kaydawgy wrote in post #11420180 I don't think he's asking for us to do his dirty work for him. He's just asking if anybody happen to have some sort of template already built for a case similar to his that could just easily be emailed to him. I thought the whole idea of POTN was to help fellow photographers out, not lash at them! This isn't lashing out, this is honest, GOOD advice. Asking fellow photographers for legal documents is like asking fellow plumbers if this spot on my back looks cancerous. If avoiding liability is the point of the contract (and that's generally why one would have such a contract for a teaching setting), then the only way to do it right is to have someone who is familiar with the OPs local and state laws draft the contract. Ryan McGinnis
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me 34,090 posts Likes: 44 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Dec 09, 2010 00:21 | #9 I hate to pile on but I find the premise of this thread rather sad. Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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ChristopherStevenb Goldmember 3,547 posts Likes: 7 Joined Dec 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada More info | Dec 09, 2010 01:57 | #10 Again, perhaps it is because I live in Canada, but I do not think you need more than a somewhat formalized write-up of the particulars. The idea of crafting an air-tight legal document for a class of mums learning photography and having them sign it and date it and have a witness sign it etc. sounds ludicrous to me.
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RDKirk Adorama says I'm "packed." More info | You're teaching a class. Rather than asking photographers, you should be asking other people who have taught classes in your area under the same circumstances. If you can't find anyone, then you should go to a lawyer. TANSTAAFL--The Only Unbreakable Rule in Photography
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kjonnnn Goldmember 1,216 posts Likes: 147 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Chicago, Illinois More info | Dec 12, 2010 16:59 | #12 My question is, who is suppose to sign this contract? The Students? or is someone paying you to do the class. The perspective of any agreement would depend on your relationship to all parties involved.
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Ernst-UlrichSchafer Senior Member 253 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Port Angeleeeeeeees, WA More info | Dec 12, 2010 17:29 | #13 I've gone to many classes, workshops, seminars, conventions and I have never heard of signing a contract to attend. I've also given a couple, no contract. Not sure what mindset gave you the idea that you needed one, unless maybe if your doubting yourself and your afraid you can't deliver????? Today is the Day: Ruth Bernhard
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ssim POTN Landscape & Cityscape Photographer 2005 10,884 posts Likes: 6 Joined Apr 2003 Location: southern Alberta, Canada More info | I did some instructing a couple of years ago but I was under contract from the local education board. We drew up a single page that said what the course outline would be, what they were expected to bring to class and what they would receive. It really is an easy thing to draft up. We also added a statement that covered what they should take away from the course in knowledge but that also said all people are different and it was worded in such a way that the message was ymmv. My life is like one big RAW file....way too much post processing needed.
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Eiro Goldmember 1,368 posts Likes: 27 Joined Dec 2009 Location: U.S. More info | Jan 07, 2011 07:48 | #15 sooooo.What was the outcome of getting the contracts ? Did you get the classes rolling ? Get out and shoot
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