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Dec 08, 2010 16:30 |  #1

I'm doing a basic D-SLR photography class for some moms in my area. I'm wanting to have an official legal contract regarding the class as well.

Anyone have a sample they could send me???
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Dec 08, 2010 17:12 |  #2

What do you need a contract for? is it a contract for an event or services, a contract that specifies the cost and what the class entails, a contract saying taht if anyone is injured during the class that your not at fault? There are a thousands of contracts relating to photography and/or educational instruction, please specify what exactly you are looking for as your question is rather broad.

generally speaking, most of us who have our own contracts and paperwork paid a decent amount on a lawyer to draft up these documents. most of us won't give away free copies of their service or other contracts or legal forms either. If you go online and search, you will come across all types of forms and contracts but I would not count on them, despite the cost there is a reason why the majority of us have lawyers create these contracts.


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Dec 08, 2010 17:46 |  #3

Well I'm resting in the hopes that someone out there is willing to help a fellow photographer- I know not every photographer has had a lawyer draft up their contracts.

I've done a search on the web and have my own wedding & portrait contracts but I haven't found anything related to educational purposes.

And yes I am wanting something that states what the details of the class are (where I can add my own details there), that materials given/learned are not to be sold/shared etc & the cost for the class and also something regarding the lines that I am no expert on photography but just simply sharing knowledge that I have learned over the years.

If no one is willing to help, I guess I can draft up my own.


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Dec 08, 2010 19:53 |  #4

I have a book with a cd for photography contracts. I'll see if there is anything for your needs.


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Dec 08, 2010 19:57 |  #5

SnapsbyPoteat wrote in post #11418953 (external link)
Well I'm resting in the hopes that someone out there is willing to help a fellow photographer- I know not every photographer has had a lawyer draft up their contracts.

Don't take this personally -- but that's stupid. If you need a contract drawn up, get a legal professional to draw one up based on the law in your area. If you're really cheap, go on Amazon and buy one of those books full of boilerplate contracts. Asking fellow photographers to draft up your legal documents is penny-wise, pound-foolish.


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Dec 08, 2010 22:17 |  #6

chakalakasp wrote in post #11419559 (external link)
Don't take this personally -- but that's stupid. If you need a contract drawn up, get a legal professional to draw one up based on the law in your area. If you're really cheap, go on Amazon and buy one of those books full of boilerplate contracts. Asking fellow photographers to draft up your legal documents is penny-wise, pound-foolish.

I don't think he's asking for us to do his dirty work for him. He's just asking if anybody happen to have some sort of template already built for a case similar to his that could just easily be emailed to him. I thought the whole idea of POTN was to help fellow photographers out, not lash at them!


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Dec 08, 2010 22:58 |  #7

SnapsbyPoteat wrote in post #11418953 (external link)
Well I'm resting in the hopes that someone out there is willing to help a fellow photographer- I know not every photographer has had a lawyer draft up their contracts.

I've done a search on the web and have my own wedding & portrait contracts but I haven't found anything related to educational purposes.

And yes I am wanting something that states what the details of the class are (where I can add my own details there), that materials given/learned are not to be sold/shared etc & the cost for the class and also something regarding the lines that I am no expert on photography but just simply sharing knowledge that I have learned over the years.

If no one is willing to help, I guess I can draft up my own.

Ah the irony.

"Hey can someone share their work so I can make sure nobody shares my work...."

You'll probably not find anything boilerplate which states what your asking because it goes completely contrary to the point of learning and teaching.

To your question, I spent 7 years teaching at the college level and our Syllabus was considered a contract between teacher and student. It's why we could hold the students responsible and we couldn't change the rules at the end of the semester.

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Dec 09, 2010 00:01 |  #8

kaydawgy wrote in post #11420180 (external link)
I don't think he's asking for us to do his dirty work for him. He's just asking if anybody happen to have some sort of template already built for a case similar to his that could just easily be emailed to him. I thought the whole idea of POTN was to help fellow photographers out, not lash at them!

This isn't lashing out, this is honest, GOOD advice. Asking fellow photographers for legal documents is like asking fellow plumbers if this spot on my back looks cancerous. If avoiding liability is the point of the contract (and that's generally why one would have such a contract for a teaching setting), then the only way to do it right is to have someone who is familiar with the OPs local and state laws draft the contract.


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Dec 09, 2010 00:21 |  #9

I hate to pile on but I find the premise of this thread rather sad.


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Dec 09, 2010 01:57 |  #10

Again, perhaps it is because I live in Canada, but I do not think you need more than a somewhat formalized write-up of the particulars. The idea of crafting an air-tight legal document for a class of mums learning photography and having them sign it and date it and have a witness sign it etc. sounds ludicrous to me.

I think it's totally reasonable to look for advice here at potn regarding the wording of a document whose aim is to simply clarify expectations and responsibilities for your prospective students. But in this case you'll probably benefit more by writing it up yourself and tweaking based off a sample.



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Dec 12, 2010 16:42 as a reply to  @ Christopher Steven b's post |  #11

You're teaching a class. Rather than asking photographers, you should be asking other people who have taught classes in your area under the same circumstances. If you can't find anyone, then you should go to a lawyer.


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Dec 12, 2010 16:59 |  #12

My question is, who is suppose to sign this contract? The Students? or is someone paying you to do the class. The perspective of any agreement would depend on your relationship to all parties involved.




  
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Dec 12, 2010 17:29 |  #13

I've gone to many classes, workshops, seminars, conventions and I have never heard of signing a contract to attend. I've also given a couple, no contract. Not sure what mindset gave you the idea that you needed one, unless maybe if your doubting yourself and your afraid you can't deliver?????


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Dec 12, 2010 22:56 as a reply to  @ Ernst-Ulrich Schafer's post |  #14

I did some instructing a couple of years ago but I was under contract from the local education board. We drew up a single page that said what the course outline would be, what they were expected to bring to class and what they would receive. It really is an easy thing to draft up. We also added a statement that covered what they should take away from the course in knowledge but that also said all people are different and it was worded in such a way that the message was ymmv.

I don't see the need for a contract and perhaps this is just confusion over terminology. I did my instructing at night in a school classroom and was covered by their liability insurance. Still though there was never a signature by a student on anything. If you are having this course at a facility that you own there could be liability issues.


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Jan 07, 2011 07:48 |  #15

sooooo.What was the outcome of getting the contracts ? Did you get the classes rolling ?


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