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Dec 11, 2010 09:23 |  #1

Hello all,

Just received my T2i and I'm noticing an issue when I use the LCD panel as opped to the eyepiece.

When switching to LCD to take pictures, the focus is very slow and is often out of focus. This is in comparison to the eyepiece where focus is fast and pictures are sharp.

Is this by design?

I took a couple of my first pictures with it. Will see if I can get them posted.

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Dec 11, 2010 09:25 |  #2

Focus will be slower using the Live View (LCD panel)... it's normal.


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Dec 11, 2010 09:33 |  #3

You can change your focus settings to AF (quick) in live view. This uses the phase detect rather than the contrast detect af. It briefly flips the mirror down, focuses and then flips it back up. Much quicker!


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Dec 11, 2010 09:52 as a reply to  @ Hardcore's post |  #4

Thanks for the fast replies and advice.

Okay, I changed AF to quick in live-view, and this has helped AF. It still isn't like using the eye-piece, but is acceptable/adequate.

Still don't quite understand if the LCD (live-view) shows the same frame as the eye-piece, why focusing would be different. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. Well, unless you spend 7k on a body :)

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Dec 11, 2010 10:12 |  #5

davidc502 wrote in post #11433396 (external link)
Thanks for the fast replies and advice.

Okay, I changed AF to quick in live-view, and this has helped AF. It still isn't like using the eye-piece, but is acceptable/adequate.

Still don't quite understand if the LCD (live-view) shows the same frame as the eye-piece, why focusing would be different. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. Well, unless you spend 7k on a body :)

Cheers,

David

Well you can spend all you want on a Canon body and it will be the same, Sony is one of the manufacturers that has addressed this issue. If you came over from a point and shoot I understand why you're trying to use live view but for most DSLR users this is something they hardly think about, it's not an issue. I have the same camera and the only time I turn on live view is when I hand the camera to a friend to take a photo of me and the family or something like that, most of my friends and family only shoot with point and shoots so it's what they're used to. Another time to shoot live view is when you put the camera on a tripod for a macro shot or a landscape shot.

When you hold the camera out away from your body like you do when you have it in live view is hard not to get camera shake, specially for wildlife telephoto shots or something like that, try using the view finder as much as you can and you'll probably never want to use the LCD again.


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Dec 11, 2010 10:43 |  #6

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Well you can spend all you want on a Canon body and it will be the same, Sony is one of the manufacturers that has addressed this issue. If you came over from a point and shoot I understand why you're trying to use live view but for most DSLR users this is something they hardly think about, it's not an issue. I have the same camera and the only time I turn on live view is when I hand the camera to a friend to take a photo of me and the family or something like that, most of my friends and family only shoot with point and shoots so it's what they're used to. Another time to shoot live view is when you put the camera on a tripod for a macro shot or a landscape shot.

When you hold the camera out away from your body like you do when you have it in live view is hard not to get camera shake, specially for wildlife telephoto shots or something like that, try using the view finder as much as you can and you'll probably never want to use the LCD again.

Ah, yes, here is a little history. I went through the Canon photography masters series in the early 1990's at which time I had, and still have, a Cannon Elan with a bunch of lenses. For the past 8 years or so, I've been using point and shoot. The last camera I bought was a Canon Power-Shot SX100, and have been using the LCD to take pictures. Since I haven't been using SLR's anymore, I suppose I've gotten used to using point and shoot LCD's. This is a habbit easily broken, but need people like yourself to tell me, so I do thank you because it makes total sense.

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Dec 11, 2010 10:50 |  #7

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Dec 11, 2010 10:58 |  #8

davidc502 wrote in post #11433396 (external link)
Still don't quite understand if the LCD (live-view) shows the same frame as the eye-piece, why focusing would be different. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. Well, unless you spend 7k on a body :)

Viewfinder in T2i will give 95% frame coverage, 5% loss in coverage can result in less accurate framing on the other hand live view gives 100% coverage so if you want spot on framing then use live view,also in live view you get 2 kinds on AF's

1,Phase detect-faster but interrupts the image and it depends upon your AF point selection so the Selected AF point will be focused.

2,contrast detect- slower but extremely accurate the main benefit of contrast detect is you can focus anywhere in the frame regardless of AF points in your camera its a very useful feature for macro work.


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Dec 11, 2010 11:47 |  #9

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Viewfinder in T2i will give 95% frame coverage, 5% loss in coverage can result in less accurate framing on the other hand live view gives 100% coverage so if you want spot on framing then use live view,also in live view you get 2 kinds on AF's

1,Phase detect-faster but interrupts the image and it depends upon your AF point selection so the Selected AF point will be focused.

2,contrast detect- slower but extremely accurate the main benefit of contrast detect is you can focus anywhere in the frame regardless of AF points in your camera its a very useful feature for macro work.

Thank-you, this is good to know.

Don't know right off hand where to change the phase detect and contrast detect, but I'll look through the manual to find it.

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Dec 11, 2010 12:15 |  #10

since i purchased my t1i i have gone away from trying to use live view. I find it much easier to use the eye piece as far as zooming in and holding the camera steady. Only time i use live view is when its on a tripod.


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Dec 11, 2010 15:26 |  #11

davidc502 wrote in post #11433396 (external link)
Thanks for the fast replies and advice.

Okay, I changed AF to quick in live-view, and this has helped AF. It still isn't like using the eye-piece, but is acceptable/adequate.

Still don't quite understand if the LCD (live-view) shows the same frame as the eye-piece, why focusing would be different. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. Well, unless you spend 7k on a body :)

Cheers,

David

If you are using Live View, the mirror flips up and the sensor is supplying the info to the AF module, and AF phase detect is used. It is a slower process and not the same as the normal AF sensors that are used when the mirror is down. If you put it in the other Live View AF mode, live view will temporarily shut off, the mirror will flip down, the normal AF do its thing, and mirror back up, live view back on.


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Dec 11, 2010 15:33 |  #12

When I first went from a point and shoot (Canon SX110 IS) to the Rebel XS, I thought I'd love using the Live View, but I couldn't figure out how to use it, so while I tried to learn I temporarily forced myself to use the viewfinder.

Then I read the manual and learned how to turn on live view, but it still didn't work (because I don't follow directions very well) so I continued "temporarily" using the viewfinder.

Then, one day, while the live view feature was turned on (it's called "enabled" in the menu) I accidentally hit the "set" button and live view came on.

By that time I didn't want to use it.

And I never have again.

Now that I have the T2i I'm uncomfortable using live view, but you have to when filming video (I think). I like the viewfinder better.


What am I trying to say? Don't bother with viewfinder unless you have your camera on a tripod and are shooting stationary objects and need to focus intensely.

But that's just my opinion, and is literally worth about two cents.


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Dec 11, 2010 18:47 |  #13

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What am I trying to say? Don't bother with viewfinder unless you have your camera on a tripod and are shooting stationary objects and need to focus intensely.

But that's just my opinion, and is literally worth about two cents.

did you mean "live view"?


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Dec 11, 2010 21:06 |  #14

Yeah, I meant live view.

Silly me


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Dec 11, 2010 22:11 |  #15

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