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Dec 13, 2010 16:49 |  #1

Hello all,

I recently bought a Spyder3 Pro and turn out that after calibrating the colors are a lot warmer than before, some times i calibrate and the result is all reddish, but i think in this case is the spyder3 getting it wrong.

The software is very simple and without many options and i'm wondering now if i am doing anything wrong or thats how it should be?

I like to work in the dark so i calibrate all in the dark.

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Dec 13, 2010 16:50 |  #2

just another example


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Dec 13, 2010 16:53 |  #3

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I like to work in the dark so i calibrate all in the dark.

That shouldn't matter... In fact the authors of the calibration software I use strongly recommend calibrating in the dark.

Can you provide us with more details?

Monitor make and model
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Dec 13, 2010 17:06 |  #4

15" display macbook pro from late 2007
display brightness 80%

software side i'm using all the recommended option which are
gamma 2.2
white point 6500k
brightness - native
ambient light - off


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Dec 13, 2010 17:07 |  #5

it's a LED display if that makes any difference


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Dec 13, 2010 17:16 as a reply to  @ hugh650uk's post |  #6

Change from 6500k to Native. If you need a display with 6500k or D65 white point, invest in an IPS paneled external monitor.

And LED is just a different type of backlighting. The Spyder3 hardware is designed to work with LED backlit displays.

The final test is whether your prints match your display under softproofing conditions.


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Dec 13, 2010 17:20 as a reply to  @ hugh650uk's post |  #7

"Originally Posted by hugh650uk
I like to work in the dark so i calibrate all in the dark."

"That shouldn't matter... In fact the authors of the calibration software I use strongly recommend calibrating in the dark."

If you don't calibrate to your normal working conditions I would think this would throw your white balance off. I would calibrate to normal work conditions or make conditions good enough to where you don't have to falsify information to your calibration system.


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Dec 13, 2010 17:21 |  #8

thanks for the info!!! I will try now to see what happens

just a quick question, 6500k or D65 is the industry standard right?


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Dec 13, 2010 17:26 |  #9

From the reading I've done everything has suggested d65 for white point when speaking of monitor calibration. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that factors into this though and I'm sure conditions / equipment play a huge role..


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Dec 13, 2010 17:35 |  #10

Just finish calibrating here and the result is the total oposite, if i set the white point to native, now the colors are even coller than the default display color profile on my mac.


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Dec 13, 2010 17:39 |  #11

tricky500 wrote in post #11446386 (external link)
If you don't calibrate to your normal working conditions I would think this would throw your white balance off. I would calibrate to normal work conditions or make conditions good enough to where you don't have to falsify information to your calibration system.

Nonsense. The tiny little patch of screen real estate sealed by the sensor gasket doesn't know whether the lights are on or off. The Spyder3 sensors don't know whether the lights are on or off. As I said earlier... it doesn't matter. Just make sure your sensor sits flush to the screen by tilting it back sufficiently.

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From the reading I've done everything has suggested d65 for white point when speaking of monitor calibration. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that factors into this though and I'm sure conditions / equipment play a huge role..

6500K or D65 is not cast in stone. The only correct value is the one that gives you a good match between the display and your prints. I know that the Spyder3Pro has a limited number of options to select from, so try something warmer and do a test print.


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Dec 13, 2010 17:44 |  #12

i tried in the dark and with the lights on, same results


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Dec 13, 2010 17:49 |  #13

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i tried in the dark and with the lights on, same results

No surprise. Another thing to remember is our eyes adjust to different color temperatures. This is why many people go along for years not realizing their monitor has a color cast, until they start printing or uploading photos to the web.

This is why you should only view a standard test image from a color savvy application or browser to gauge your monitor.


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Dec 13, 2010 17:55 |  #14

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No surprise. Another thing to remember is our eyes adjust to different color temperatures. This is why many people go along for years not realizing their monitor has a color cast, until they start printing or uploading photos to the web.

This is why you should only view a standard test image from a color savvy application or browser to gauge your monitor.

you lost me here, dont laugh but whats color savvy?


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you lost me here, dont laugh but whats color savvy?

It recognizes and uses the custom monitor profile you created. Like Photoshop.


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