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Focal length requirements at the Zoo?

 
Nick12345
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Dec 18, 2010 09:09 |  #1

Is 200mm enough?

I have a crop body.




  
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Dec 18, 2010 09:20 |  #2

Depends on how close you can get but it should be plenty. I used a 55-250mm when I went to the SD zoo and it was fine for me.


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Dec 18, 2010 09:21 |  #3

I think it depends a lot on the zoo and how the exhibits are laid out. The trend seems to be to build exhibits that present animals in a more natural habitat & let people view them from more of a distance (much nicer for the animals I think). Having said that, and taking the bronx zoo as an example... There are exhibits where I am comfortable with a 70-200 and others where I like something in the 200-400 range.


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Dec 18, 2010 09:40 |  #4

Depend of the Zoo
200mm will do (on a crop body) most of the times but I've had situations where is simply not enough and had to crop in PS
For example some monkeys and lions in the Miami ZOO are kind of far away do get a tight shot
But you should be fine with 200mm coveing


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Dec 18, 2010 10:54 |  #5

Nick12345 wrote in post #11473778 (external link)
Is 200mm enough?

I have a crop body.

What lenses do you have? Any compatible with a 1.4X or 2X TC? My experiences at zoo shooting is that you can never have enough reach! You end up with better IQ by cropping with your viewfinder than you can get in PP for close-ups.

The other option is to just climb the fence. Those tigers are tame. They get really playful with a flash, so make sure you take one with you! No kidding!

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Dec 18, 2010 10:58 |  #6

There is a place for nearly any normal to tele FL at the zoo. I usually take either 100L or 85 1.8 plus 400 f5.6. I imagine a 70-200, 70-300 or 100-400 would be ideal single lens choices, though it depends on the zoo and what your favorite animals are.

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Dec 18, 2010 11:43 |  #7

I often take just the 200 f/2.8L to the Memphis zoo and have never been disappointed with the results. I can get more variety with the 100-400, but the 200L always produces some nice keepers and makes many of the bars and fences disappear.

Here are a few shots taken with the 200L.

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Hope this helps, but much would depend on your zoo.

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Dec 18, 2010 11:44 |  #8
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Indoor exhibits, I use 135L. Out door, 70-200. Usually the long end. Now, for the hard to reach lions resting underneath a tree some 50 feet away, a 500m is perfect. I have used my 500L in the zoo at one time.

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Dec 18, 2010 11:52 |  #9

I've often felt that a 70-200mm type lens with or without a 1.4TC is a good combo for zoo photography. In general I think that zoos do favour zooms over primes mostly because subject size and distance can change so often that the versatility helps out when doing this kind of photography. Support that with a long prime for some more distant shots or portraits and a wide aperture prime for indoors areas and you'd have a solid base for zoo photography.


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Dec 18, 2010 12:06 |  #10

I use a Sigma 100-300mm f/4 and a Canon 85mm 1.8 lens.


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Dec 18, 2010 12:29 |  #11

TooManyShots = Very nice photos there!


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Dec 18, 2010 12:54 |  #12

Good shots from all! Plus, you didn't end up being lunch for any animals!


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Dec 18, 2010 12:56 |  #13
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jspruit wrote in post #11474594 (external link)
TooManyShots = Very nice photos there!


Thanks. Correction, the Bee Eater was taken with a 70-200L F4 no IS at 200mm. Here is a shot using 135L at F2.5

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Dec 18, 2010 16:46 |  #14

Nick12345 wrote in post #11473778 (external link)
Is 200mm enough?

I have a crop body.

yes, - better at 250mm, 300mm and 400mm !




  
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Dec 18, 2010 20:07 |  #15

200mm at the zoos around my area isn't enough for most exhibits. My first choice is 400mm. Second choice is a 300mm. The 1.4 extender is a useful item to bring along as well.




  
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