Would you pay $2,000 for a book?

MP4/8 wrote in post #11486152
Yanno,......I must be a simple guy. Cause I'm sitting here, reflecting on my life, and what things I think I could add, or do, that I would really regret not having in my life, should I get hit by a car tomorrow.

This guy's book is definitely not on the list. Nor any single image this guy has ever produced, or ever will.

They're just images. If you have the internet, there's an unlimited amount of them, to satisfy whatever need one might have, to view beautiful images.

Why would you I want to pay him $2000 to view a bunch of images? I'd be essentially paying him, because he's.... him.

If the book was $99.95, I could see myself buying it. But at $199.95, it would have to include a $100 gift certificate to a spa.

Let's face it. The guy's ego is overblown because his clients have set a precedent.

I'm just not one of those who are easily impressed an excessive amount, by any single 'artist'.

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Seriously? Producing that book isn't something I want to do with my life either, neither is being an olympic runner. That doesn't make it a worthless feat..

You don't have to want to pay him that much, I don't want to either. Obviously some people do, he's got this far in his career so I'm sure he knows what hes doing. Or at least the very competant staff he would have should know whats going on.

I'm not a landscape fan but Peter Lik does a better job than most other people out there, he's probably the best landscape photographer today -in my opinion- and I guess you pay for his skill which is way above the average photographer and for his name/exclusivity. A BMWs price isn't all about how good the car actually is, some of that is the name/exclusivity. If they sold their cars for the same price as Ford or something they are only cheapening their name, wouldn't you agree? Perception is reality.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11487905
A BMWs price isn't all about how good the car actually is, some of that is the name/exclusivity.

Good luck saving up for your retirement years...

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11487905
If they sold their cars for the same price as Ford or something they are only cheapening their name, wouldn't you agree?

No.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4


It just means they've managed to grossly overinflate their value in the eyes of people who are ignorant.

Good luck with that BMW tranny bill....

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11487905
Perception is reality.

So reality wouldn't exist if you weren't alive?...

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If, i had the money, deffinately!

Reality is an illusion, but thats a whole other thread for a completely different forum (;

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=JF61lhEeGng

MP4/8 wrote in post #11488070
Good luck saving up for your retirement years...

I have no idea why you said that, what it means or why it's relevant. Please elaborate.

MP4/8 wrote in post #11488070
No.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4


It just means they've managed to grossly overinflate their value in the eyes of people who are ignorant.

Good luck with that BMW tranny bill....

I don't care or know about cars so I don't know why I'm watching a video about comparing cars. I'm talking about the brand, brand and product are two different things. I more or less agree with overinflating its worth in the eyes of people, which is called perception... I wouldn't go as far as saying they're all ignorant just because I feel like it's a gross generalizeation but each to their own. Point is people perceive BMW as a higher class car manufacturer than Ford, weather it's actually true or not (and that's a matter of opinion and taste). Ferari to Ford would have been a much better example.

MP4/8 wrote in post #11488070
So reality wouldn't exist if you weren't alive?...

That's a whole different cup of tea, probably more appropriate for philosphy forum than a photography one. I'm talking on a smaller scale, one that's relevant to this discussion. Apply common sense when you're reading everyones posts, and forgive my spelling.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11488289
I have no idea why you said that, what it means or why it's relevant. Please elaborate.

Because you 'buy' into marketing hype, and think 'brands'.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11488289
I don't care or know about cars so I don't know why I'm watching a video about comparing cars.

Because you tried to illustrate that BMW's merit being more expensive than Fords.

The video proves otherwise.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11488289
I'm talking about the brand..

No.

You must have short term memory.

You were talking about 'a' BMW's price not being about how good/not good it was.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11488289
...brand and product are two different things.

Thanks, Captain Obvious.

But you should school yourself if what you wrote differs from what you meant. Don't lecture me as if I have a comprehension problem.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11488289
Ferari to Ford would have been a much better example.

Not really....

http://www.motortrend.​com …pes_comparison/​index.html

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11488289
That's a whole different cup of tea, probably more appropriate for philosphy forum than a photography one.

If you don't want your personal philosophies to be challenged, then it's probably best you not use them to try and prove a point.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11488289
I'm talking on a smaller scale, one that's relevant to this discussion.

There's no such thing as a 'small scale' reality.
There's just reality, Einstein....

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11488289
Apply common sense when you're reading everyones posts, and forgive my spelling.

It's not anyone's job to decifer your thoughts, if you can't articulate them, so stop lecturing others to overcompensate for your limited understanding and ability to articulate cogent thoughts...

Perhaps a blog would be better for you, rather than a forum where dialogue between people occurs...

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Okay MP4/8, I'm just going to leave it alone now because we're way off topic and you sound pretty upset. You did try and insult me after all.

Back on topic: I wonder what the production costs of that book would be. 580 pages and 19.5 x 13.5 inches, thats a pretty solid book.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11489213
Back on topic: I wonder what the production costs of that book would be. 580 pages and 19.5 x 13.5 inches, thats a pretty solid book.

Not only that, but these aren't exactly backyard sunsets. He travels the world and puts significant effort into merely getting to these places.

cdifoto wrote in post #11489274
Not only that, but these aren't exactly backyard sunsets. He travels the world and puts significant effort into merely getting to these places.

Absolutely, the man puts huge amounts of his effort into it by the looks of it. And hey, when it comes down to it there's only one of him. No one else can produce those same images, for so many reasons. His capture method, personal style, processing, printing techniques, even the conditions of the day or night that the photos have been created on.

I think Peter Lik is one of those people you have to at least give credit for being so passionate about his own craft, even if you're not into landscape photography. I'm not that into it personally but I still consider him to be an inspiring person.

Dude takes some seriously awesome photos from what I could see, if I had the money no reason I wouldn't spend it on that instead of a day at the spa.....

I don't and I won't but if people are buying it that's at least what it's worth to them, if no one is then price will drop

My 1st thought was no I wouldn't. Then I thought about it and realized that I wouldn't because that is a lot of money(for me) relitive to what satisfaction I would derive from owning it. Now if my income were 10 times what it is today, I might feel differently......

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11489213
Okay MP4/8, I'm just going to leave it alone now because we're way off topic...

I responded to the topics you posted.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11489213
... and you sound pretty upset.

I guess this is how you correlate reality (perception is reality). You imagine something, and you presume it's true (using only your imagination as a basis to do so).

You've deluded yourself.

You mistook my sarcasm and subtle humour as anger.

You were making me laugh, not making me angry.

Good luck with your future relationships with people....

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11489213
You did try and insult me after all.

I was sarcastically mocking you.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11489213
Back on topic: I wonder what the production costs of that book would be. 580 pages and 19.5 x 13.5 inches, thats a pretty solid book.

Virtually nothing, in terms of compiling photos that are prepped for printing.

Other than the fact that this will be produced in small batches (due to demand), there's nothing to indicate that the production quality of this book will be any better than any other good illustrative hard cover book would cost.

As far as 'he' being the only one who could take the photos that he has, that's pure hyperbole.

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This is what I dont understand, this guy gets proped up so high like a god.

Example > "Peter is already the only photographer to be given the title of Master Photographer by both the Professional Photographers of America (2010) and the Australian Institute of Professional Photography (2002)." > PETER LIK NAMED BIPP FELLOW AS "SACRED SUNRISE" WINS MAJOR AWARD.

http://www.facebook.co​m …r-award/1015036125288563​7

You dont see any of these (below) photographers getting this attention and look at these images of the same scene "mesa arch"

http://www.google.com …YQsAQwAA&biw=15​16&bih=741

I'm pretty much convinced hes a smart business man, and while a great photographer yes, hes no better then thousands of others out there including many right here on this forum. Just my 2 cents!

I think that's true of most successful photographers - what it really comes down to is that they are great entrepenuers first and foremost - then they set their work on top of that business pillar and it just looks so good people can't help but buy it.

Bob Hasty wrote in post #11491527
I'm pretty much convinced hes a smart business man, and while a great photographer yes, hes no better then thousands of others out there including many right here on this forum. Just my 2 cents!

Branding yourself is important I heard