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Dec 21, 2010 12:39 |  #76

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Branding yourself is important I heard :p

sounds painful, but if I can sell books after branding myself, I'm in :lol:


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Dec 21, 2010 13:47 |  #77

Scott you can actually - It's just that the branding isn't easy or fast :-)

Look at Scott Kelby - Is he really a better photographer than a whole lot of people on this forum or is he just a better business man?


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Dec 21, 2010 14:17 |  #78

Damn Josh, you got alot of gear!


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Dec 21, 2010 16:08 |  #79

It's funny his "Beyond Paradise" limited edition print is valued between 150,000 USD and 25,000 no typo depending on what batch you bought it from. I saw a guy pawn this exact one on the the pawn stars show for 4,000 so they don't hold their value very well. By the way I have a picture of my dog for going for 36,000 please pm me if your interested :lol:

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Dec 21, 2010 18:19 |  #80

MP4/8, dude I seriously don't care. This is really lame, if you want to hear you're right then sure, you're right. Now get over it. Hopefully we can go back to a friendly disgussion.

I would totally agree with everyone who has said hes a good business man, but I would still say hes a skilled photographer. His technical skill is really up there too. I think it's David Duchemin that says sucesful -professionallu speaking- photographers need to be masters of joing thier craft with commerce.


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Dec 21, 2010 18:22 |  #81

If by "book" you mean Ferrari Enzo, then yes, I would pay $2,000 for a book


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Dec 21, 2010 18:32 |  #82

Hogloff wrote in post #11480714 (external link)
He has 14 galleries around this globe. Not bad by any standards...how many do you have?

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Look at locations of the galleries. Looks like he caters to the high end customer.


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Dec 21, 2010 18:54 |  #83

Exactly right, He's catering to those High End Customers. Will he leave a mark on the History of Photography? Time will tell.


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Dec 21, 2010 18:56 |  #84
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CallumPhoto wrote in post #11493486 (external link)
MP4/8, dude I seriously don't care.

Then you wouldn't have quoted me, and debated me.

But you did. Not that I cared. You simply don't have the foggiest notion of what you're talking about, or what you're actually saying, and I merely pointed that out.

It's clear you simply wanted to defend a man that you admire, and feel inferior to, and that I don't.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11493486 (external link)
This is really lame,

Um....ya....like....du​de.....um....I think it's kinda rad...

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11493486 (external link)
...if you want to hear you're right then sure, you're right.

Thanks for giving me a passing grade. I'm so relieved right now.

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11493486 (external link)
Now get over it.

Um....like....bite me....dude....huh, huh....

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11493486 (external link)
Hopefully we can go back to a friendly disgussion.

Then don't come in and quote me next time, and respond with a rhetorical "Seriously?", , and lecture me with banal idioms like perception is reality, as if I was out of touch with reality, when I simply gave my opinion about a guy overcharging for a book of his photos, as if he's the god of photos,and you and I will get along just fine.... k there dude?...

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Dec 21, 2010 19:38 |  #85
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tgamron wrote in post #11493542 (external link)
Look at locations of the galleries. Looks like he caters to the high end customer.

Yep, the only crowd that has $2000 to spend on a book. Sounds like he knows his clients and knows how to market to them.




  
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Dec 21, 2010 19:44 |  #86

Hogloff wrote in post #11493815 (external link)
Yep, the only crowd that has $2000 to spend on a book. Sounds like he knows his clients and knows how to market to them.

Seems to have his branding down too, I'm still seriously curious about how much that book would actually cost to produce. Just the materials and labour cost, does anyone know how much that thing weighs in the metric system?


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Dec 21, 2010 19:48 |  #87

This guy has a gallery in the Venetian in Las Vegas when I visited last year, didn't check to see if he is still there this year... I guess I need to work on marketing to the same customers :p


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Dec 21, 2010 20:22 |  #88

The true test in my opinion of the legacy of any great artist is after they have died. Those in history who have pushed the boundaries, developed new styles and techniques are the ones who tend to get remembered. In the photography world it seems to be that more often than not someone is remembered in particular for one shot more than others.

Just going over the posts in this thread it would seem that whilst many appreciate his work and agree to its high quality... no one is on awe... that for me says it all.


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Dec 21, 2010 20:58 |  #89

Easy now memories, thats your local hero aint it? Well, not yours but ya know.


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Dec 21, 2010 21:18 |  #90

Bob Hasty wrote in post #11494184 (external link)
Easy now memories, thats your local hero aint it? Well, not yours but ya know.

I'm easy... I think the guy's work is fantastic.

The point I was making was that no one in the thread seems to have had an "OMG" moment looking through his work. (An "OMG" moment being one when you are completely captivated and amazed... left speechless by the breathtaking image).

His work is very, very good but so is that of many other landscape photographers.

When an artist is deceased it is the work that becomes the legacy and not the way in which it was marketed, where it was sold and how much for.

I often wonder with many photographers that if you were to secretly replace some of their works with those of another photographer as to how many people would pick up on the difference. In many instances I feel that most wouldn't notice the difference which would mean that the consumers were buying a well marketed name or brand rather than an image.

This happens in all walks of life as we humans are fickle folk and easily follow the crowd. So many people don't buy "supermarket" brands but instead so after the heavily commercialised names when often the actual product is identical just in a different coloured packet.


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