Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
Thread started 23 Dec 2010 (Thursday) 20:51
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Recommended: NatureScapes Safety Plate for all 3 and 5-series Gitzo tripods

 
peter_n
Goldmember
Avatar
2,483 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 124
Joined Apr 2010
Location: Boston, USA
     
Dec 23, 2010 20:51 |  #1

I've wanted to get a real systematic for a while (I use an old Gitzo G1228 with a Markins base plate) and my choice was a Gitzo GT3541LS, but I knew about the potential for a loose base plate tension screw allowing camera/lens, ballhead and all to disengage from the top of the tripod. I didn't like the idea at all and eventually settled on a Benro C3780T. Then last week I heard about the NatureScapes plate that solved the Gitzo problem, did some research, and ordered the 3541LS and extra plate.

This little safety plate is a very simple solution to the potential problem. You just remove the hook from under the Gitzo base plate, slot the safety plate in and tighten the supplied screw with a 9/16" socket wrench. Takes less than half a minute and you never have to think about this again. I know I might go through all my time with the 3541LS with no issue at all, but given my sometime sloppiness about maintenance it was just great to find this little product. It's simple, has great construction, fits beautifully, and is thin and hardly noticeable. Recommended for all 3 and 5-series systematic owners!


IMAGE: http://www.nolan.com/forum_imgs/NatureScapes_plate.jpg

~Peter

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jdizzle
Darth Noink
Avatar
69,419 posts
Likes: 65
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Harvesting Nano crystals
     
Dec 23, 2010 21:36 |  #2

So it's basically a giant washer?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MCAsan
Goldmember
Avatar
3,918 posts
Likes: 88
Joined Jun 2010
Location: Atlanta
     
Dec 23, 2010 21:56 as a reply to  @ jdizzle's post |  #3

a giant lock washer. If it would just a round washer it would not fit in between the legs. But because it is notched to between the legs, it does not spin.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
peter_n
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
2,483 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 124
Joined Apr 2010
Location: Boston, USA
     
Dec 23, 2010 22:27 |  #4

jdizzle wrote in post #11505975 (external link)
So it's basically a giant washer?

Good description LOL. Here's a little review of it (external link), with much better pictures than my hastily taken snaps.


~Peter

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jdizzle
Darth Noink
Avatar
69,419 posts
Likes: 65
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Harvesting Nano crystals
     
Dec 23, 2010 22:32 |  #5

So which telephotos do use that made you purchase this piece?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
peter_n
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
2,483 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 124
Joined Apr 2010
Location: Boston, USA
     
Dec 24, 2010 07:10 |  #6

I don't use telephotos. But I don't want my Fotoman 617 with Schneider-Kreuznach Super-Symmar 110/5.6 coming off the top of the legs. That thing is priceless. Much less likely, but equally disastrous would be my Leica MP3 and Noctilux falling off. I bought this little bit of metal for peace of mind, but Gitzo need to fix this, it's just really poor design.


~Peter

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MCAsan
Goldmember
Avatar
3,918 posts
Likes: 88
Joined Jun 2010
Location: Atlanta
     
Dec 24, 2010 07:51 as a reply to  @ peter_n's post |  #7

any ballhead could backoff of a central mounting bolt on any tripod unless something like a setscrew or a drop of locktite, or lockwasher like this plate, does something to prevent it.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
hammer418
Goldmember
Avatar
2,937 posts
Gallery: 87 photos
Likes: 3933
Joined Feb 2008
Location: Indianapolis, IN USA
     
Jan 03, 2011 13:22 |  #8

peter_n - the safety lock plate looks like a great idea for total security.
Thanks for the tip !


Strangers are just friends that you've never met .... I'm Mike

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Todd ­ Lambert
I don't like titles
Avatar
12,643 posts
Gallery: 9 photos
Likes: 131
Joined May 2009
Location: On The Roads Across America
     
Mar 12, 2011 12:26 |  #9

I'm glad it's there for people who worry about these things, but personally I think it's pretty useless. 8-)

It takes one-second to check your gear and make sure it's tight. I do not think this is a design flaw at all. It's part of the systematic system and is working as designed. If you fail to use your equipment correctly, it may fail. If you fail to maintain your equipment, it may fail. How is this different from anything else?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rvdw98
Goldmember
Avatar
1,592 posts
Joined Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
     
Mar 12, 2011 17:01 |  #10

Todd Lambert wrote in post #12007147 (external link)
It takes one-second to check your gear and make sure it's tight.

From the NatureScapes Review: "A simple routine check of all the bolts on the tripod should always be carried out once in a while and doing so will hopefully prevent any disasters - after all, you wouldn't drive your car for a year without checking the oil."

Todd Lambert wrote in post #12007147 (external link)
I do not think this is a design flaw at all.

From the NatureScapes Review: "it certainly shouldn't be seen as a major design flaw of the systematic range of tripods".

Todd Lambert wrote in post #12007147 (external link)
It's part of the systematic system and is working as designed.

I doubt that the system was designed to come apart unintentionally, regardless of how often you check and tighten it.

Todd Lambert wrote in post #12007147 (external link)
If you fail to use your equipment correctly, it may fail. If you fail to maintain your equipment, it may fail. How is this different from anything else?

It's no different from any other fail-safe device. I trust you don't mean to imply that those are useless as well. ;)


Roy

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jdizzle
Darth Noink
Avatar
69,419 posts
Likes: 65
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Harvesting Nano crystals
     
Mar 12, 2011 18:46 |  #11

Tbh, I don't have worry about using this on my tripod bcoz' I don't lug long telephoto primes all day. The only knit I have is that you lose the hook.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MDJAK
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
24,745 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 204
Joined Nov 2004
Location: New York
     
Sep 04, 2011 06:21 |  #12

Ok I'm a dope without doubt, but what problem is this fixing on a very expensive tripod made by the premier tripod company? I have a gitzo 1 series. Is mine subject to this "fault" also?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rick_reno
Cream of the Crop
44,648 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 155
Joined Dec 2010
     
Sep 04, 2011 16:45 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #13

RRS addressed this "problem" in their tripods.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
peter_n
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
2,483 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 124
Joined Apr 2010
Location: Boston, USA
     
Sep 14, 2011 12:44 |  #14

MDJAK wrote in post #13048683 (external link)
Ok I'm a dope without doubt, but what problem is this fixing on a very expensive tripod made by the premier tripod company? I have a gitzo 1 series. Is mine subject to this "fault" also?

No you're not a dope it's a genuine issue at least in my mind. There have been accidents and I bought the plate as an insurance policy, although many people think the plate is ridiculous. "Just check the locking screw every time you take the tripod out" they say. Right! :rolleyes: Gitzo really should fix this, it's inexcusable.

It's a problem with the Gitzo systematics only so you have no worries with your series 1. :)

rick_reno wrote in post #13050640 (external link)
RRS addressed this "problem" in their tripods.

Yes they did, they fix the top base connection with three screws, not one. But the difference in price and performance wasn't enough to persuade me to get a TVC-33. The NatureScapes plate fixes the problem too.


~Peter

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
hammer418
Goldmember
Avatar
2,937 posts
Gallery: 87 photos
Likes: 3933
Joined Feb 2008
Location: Indianapolis, IN USA
     
Sep 14, 2011 14:43 |  #15

As a G3541LS owner, here's my outlook on the problem, and yes, it's sad that the problem exists.
The most expensive combo I put on my tripod is the 50D, 400 f/5.6L, and 430EX flash w/ better beamer. If I ever had the money (doubtful) to buy a 500 f/4 IS L, then yes, I'd buy the saftey plate.
Otherwise, I'll give the locked ballhead a little twist before use (if the Gitzo center place is at all loose, it should move), and if it's secure, I'm confident that there will be no trouble.

Everyone shoud do what they feel comfortable doing. :)


Strangers are just friends that you've never met .... I'm Mike

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

18,215 views & 0 likes for this thread, 17 members have posted to it.
Recommended: NatureScapes Safety Plate for all 3 and 5-series Gitzo tripods
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1637 guests, 136 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.