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Jan 01, 2011 20:21 |  #16

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Newspaper work ? Get the 17-40 and save some cash.

i doubt a journalist would ever favor an f4 lens over f2.8.

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Jan 01, 2011 20:38 |  #17

Probably true. Then again, pros, half the time, don't even know what lens they are using :-)

When's the last time you saw a shallow DOF picture in a newspaper ?


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Jan 01, 2011 21:31 |  #18

16-35 MkI flares quite badly. Some comparisons here, with 17-40L, on Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell​.com …5mm-performance.htm#flare (external link)

He's also reviewed the MkII and it's much better http://www.kenrockwell​.com/canon/lenses/16-35mm-ii.htm (external link)


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Jan 01, 2011 22:02 |  #19

[QUOTE=bohdank;1155522​5]Probably true. Then again, pros, half the time, don't even know what lens they are using :-)

When's the last time you saw a shallow DOF picture in a newspaper ?[/quote]


f4 is pretty useless indoors unless you are using flash which isn't always possible. a "real" PJ would have the 16-35L II. i'd say the 16-35L II and 70-200L f2.8 IS are two lenses that are PJ must-haves with 1.3 crop.

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Jan 01, 2011 22:17 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #20

We have newspaper photographers stop by our theater from time to time, and they always seem to have a 1.3 crop body or two, a 70-200 2.8, and a 16-35 2.8.


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Jan 02, 2011 01:30 |  #21

The typical for work is 16-35, 24-70 or 24-105, and 70-200. Truth be told, the 24-xx(x) is used the least or replaces the 16-35 if on FF.

Back to the original post: I like my rental 16-35 II. I find that it fits my bag nicely and fills the wide niche that I was missing with 24mm on crop.

Hoppy, thanks for the link to Rockwell's page. I just checked his MK I vs 17-40 shots and wow! The flare is pretty bad with the MK I. Rockwell's review of the MK II shows almost no flare like the 17-40. I think the extra sharpness, less fringing, and less flare are worth the extra cost.


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Jan 02, 2011 11:02 |  #22

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bohdank wrote in post #11555225 (external link)
Probably true. Then again, pros, half the time, don't even know what lens they are using :-)

When's the last time you saw a shallow DOF picture in a newspaper ?[/quote]


f4 is pretty useless indoors unless you are using flash which isn't always possible. a "real" PJ would have the 16-35L II. i'd say the 16-35L II and 70-200L f2.8 IS are two lenses that are PJ must-haves with 1.3 crop.

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I'm not saying they don't use the 16-35 for their wide angle, just, based on what I see day in and day out in the papers/news, they could do without it. It is better to be prepared for anything that comes up, when the shot must make it into the pages of the paper.


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Jan 02, 2011 17:44 |  #23

16-35 is the second most used lens, behind the 70-200 f/2.8 IS, for photojournalism. Also, the 16-35 isn't what I'd call a shallow DoF lens.


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Jan 02, 2011 19:05 |  #24

Corner performance favors the Mk II, but with a 1.6X, you probably wouldn't see that. With the 1.3X, maybe. Flare is very different. The original Mk I could be coaxed into showing some big flare spots in the image, while the Mk II is very resistent to flare.


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Jan 02, 2011 19:17 |  #25

twoshadows wrote in post #11559801 (external link)
16-35 is the second most used lens, behind the 70-200 f/2.8 IS, for photojournalism. Also, the 16-35 isn't what I'd call a shallow DoF lens.

16-35/24-70/70-200

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Jan 02, 2011 19:21 |  #26

bohdank wrote in post #11560319 (external link)
16-35/24-70/70-200

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Macro?:lol:


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Jan 02, 2011 19:22 |  #27

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Macro?:lol:

Crop ;-)a


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Jan 02, 2011 20:07 |  #28

I would posit that the 24-70 is unnecessary IF one uses two different format bodies...


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Jan 02, 2011 23:16 |  #29

twoshadows wrote in post #11560633 (external link)
I would posit that the 24-70 is unnecessary IF one uses two different format bodies...

The 24-70 is repetitive even if the shooter has two bodies with the same format. I like the 16-35, 50, and 70-200 trilogy. Even with one body.


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