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Dec 24, 2010 17:01 |  #1

I've been trying to follow tutorials for the last hour and can't get any decent results. Any PhotoShop wizards want to help me blend these?

The smoke on this one is great:

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And the flame on this on is great:
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Dec 24, 2010 17:42 |  #2

So...you could use the bottom one as your "background" layer, put the top one as the upper layer with a mask, then brush in the smoke -- with the dark background it should be pretty painless


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Dec 24, 2010 18:24 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #3

I would first try the KISS principal (keep it simple stupid). Try to photomerge them...might work, might not, but don't quit after one attempt. Give it 3-4 tries before you give up.
Failing that, assuming the blacks are exactly the same RGB readings, increase the canvas size and clone in the match or smoke into the other image at the appropriate place.

All this assumes that you have CS4-5.


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Dec 24, 2010 19:27 as a reply to  @ chauncey's post |  #4

Not sure exactly what final look you are trying to achieve. I gave Tony's suggestion a quick try using layer masks, plus tweaked levels a bit:


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Dec 24, 2010 19:40 |  #5

Alright guys thanks for the info and input! I tried photomerge about 4 times and it didn't work. I even tried aligning them manually.

However I was able to pull of the mask method. Following the tutorials didn't work but some time and experimentation worked pretty good. And I'm happy with the results! What do you guys think? I'll post this in a photo sharing thread too.

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Dec 24, 2010 19:41 as a reply to  @ Rimmer's post |  #6

In photoshop, place both images on it's own layer. Set the top layer to screen blending mode. That reveals both layers combined. Use the move tool to nudge the top layer til it matches the bottom.

I hope this is what you had in mind.


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Dec 24, 2010 19:41 |  #7

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Not sure exactly what final look you are trying to achieve. I gave Tony's suggestion a quick try using layer masks, plus tweaked levels a bit:

Hey thanks for giving it a shot! I just posted a version that I'm pretty happy with.:D


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Dec 24, 2010 19:42 |  #8

bzollinger wrote in post #11510120 (external link)
Alright guys thanks for the info and input! I tried photomerge about 4 times and it didn't work. I even tried aligning them manually.

However I was able to pull of the mask method. Following the tutorials didn't work but some time and experimentation worked pretty good. And I'm happy with the results! What do you guys think? I'll post this in a photo sharing thread too.

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Dec 24, 2010 20:00 |  #9

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Dec 24, 2010 20:49 |  #10

As someone suggested. Put the smoke in a layer no top of the candle layer. Use a Screen Blend.
Then mask out or erase the matchstick and the other object with a feathered brush.
I positioned it so that the smoke appears to come from the flame ... and changed the Hue on the smoke layer..or you can leave it blue.

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Dec 24, 2010 21:59 |  #11

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I'd say you did really well!

Thanks for the kind comments! I'm pretty happy about it. If only photoshop was as malleable as photography itself!:confused:


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Dec 24, 2010 22:00 |  #12

kjonnnn wrote in post #11510271 (external link)
As someone suggested. Put the smoke in a layer no top of the candle layer. Use a Screen Blend.
Then mask out or erase the matchstick and the other object with a feathered brush.
I positioned it so that the smoke appears to come from the flame ... and changed the Hue on the smoke layer..or you can leave it blue.

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Very cool! I love the way that you were able to really make it look as though the smoke came from the match!

I'm going to have to try this technique! Thanks again.


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Dec 24, 2010 22:39 as a reply to  @ bzollinger's post |  #13

I should have mentioned that I also used a layer mask to eliminate one of the matchsticks from the head down.

You can even find free smoke brushes and create your own smoke when there is none on the image you want to apply it.


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Dec 25, 2010 10:45 as a reply to  @ kjonnnn's post |  #14

Both kitacanon and kjonnnn: You need to calibrate your screens: *Very* obvious transitions / painting marks in the blacks.

Then again, neither of the images have an embedded profile, so that might be related.


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Dec 26, 2010 12:11 |  #15

René Damkot wrote in post #11512217 (external link)
Both kitacanon and kjonnnn: You need to calibrate your screens: *Very* obvious transitions / painting marks in the blacks.

I see it in kitacanon's image but not in the one by kjonnnn. How does that relate to calibration? Wrong brightness/contrast?




  
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