sensor Dry cleaning , do you use it ?

Hi

i was reading some information about the sensor clean

i read some info in the visible dust homepage, i guess the are great products

i'm used to clean with a wet swab and eclipse

but in the homepage http://visibledust.com​/productsguide.php

there is a tutorial about how to clean the sensor

vivible dust suggests a dry clean ->

i used lots of blower and once the artic butterfly but i was not able to clean it
really i found them useless but maybe i did no it properly!

do you use dry clean system like the artic butterfly ? does it work?

if you don't use a dry cleaning like
how do you clean the dust "crystallized" dust ? or debris ? to avoid to scratch the low pass


thanks
cheers
Merry Xmass

I use the arctic butterfly followed by the VD sensor clear solution and swab, then an adhesive stick, when dry, to pick up any remaining residue.

Depends on the dust.

If you dry clean, you are essentially rubbing a very smooth surface with (hopefully) a very soft material. If the dirt is stuck on it then a wet cleaning floats or suspends the dirt in the solution which must be absorbed by the Pecpad.

The Canon camera technicians have been observed using all techniques starting with:

1. Blower or compressed air.
2. SensorKlear Pen.
3. Eclipse and PecPads.

The techs know when not to overdo it. That's their real expertise.

lannes wrote in post #11515547
I use the arctic butterfly followed by the VD sensor clear solution and swab, then an adhesive stick, when dry, to pick up any remaining residue.

do you perform always a dry clean and after and wet clean ?

i did always a wet clean
the dry clean did not give me good results

thanks

draketheoutlaw wrote in post #11515724
Depends on the dust.

If you dry clean, you are essentially rubbing a very smooth surface with (hopefully) a very soft material. If the dirt is stuck on it then a wet cleaning floats or suspends the dirt in the solution which must be absorbed by the Pecpad.

The Canon camera technicians have been observed using all techniques starting with:

1. Blower or compressed air.
2. SensorKlear Pen.
3. Eclipse and PecPads.

The techs know when not to overdo it. That's their real expertise.

i have always seen sticky dust i guess ("crystallized" don't know if it's a right english word) or grease dirt

in these conditions (i mean sticky or grease dirt ) is the wet clean the best bet ?

by the way i was not lucky with the sensorkear pen

thanks

lannes wrote in post #11516107
I only use a wet clean if absolutely necessary.

and when did you find absolutely necessary ?
did you find it risky ?


thanks
cheers

mantra wrote in post #11516198
and when did you find absolutely necessary ?
did you find it risky ?


thanks
cheers

Only when the dust is welded on, the 5d2 has automatic sensor cleaning, so it keeps quite clean.

The arctic butterfly is good but you need to keep it clean. I wash mine in 100% isopropyl alcohol.

lannes wrote in post #11516288
Only when the dust is welded on, the 5d2 has automatic sensor cleaning, so it keeps quite clean.

The arctic butterfly is good but you need to keep it clean. I wash mine in 100% isopropyl alcohol.

i clean the sensor every 1 or 2 years ,i guess i have to change my strategy

so the brush is a tool to use often , in my case i guess it's in vain ,isn't it?
thanks

mantra wrote in post #11516329
i clean the sensor every 1 or 2 years ,i guess i have to change my strategy

so the brush is a tool to use often , in my case i guess it's in vain ,isn't it?
thanks

mantra,

The camera manufacturers have been using more and more lubricant on the moving parts inside D-SLRs, so I would guess that is a big part of your dilemma. You mentioned you weren't getting good results with the SensorKlear and for good reason if you've got a lube build-up. Likewise, a sensor brush will be futile sweeping up oil, too, that's why a good wet-clean is mandatory every so often.

The good news is that once all of the oil is removed, dry tools work the way they were intended to work, picking up all of the loose dust and debris from the sensor's surface. You can use a static-brush everyday if you wish, and the SensorKlear pen once or twice a week, then, depending on how much you shoot, you can wet-clean maybe once or twice a month. A good rule of thumb to judge lubricant build-up is when your dry tool isn't working as well as it should, this is because lubricant can be very hard to see even with a loupe.

Nicholas
www.copperhillimages.c​om

Nicholas R. wrote in post #11516398
mantra,

The camera manufacturers have been using more and more lubricant on the moving parts inside D-SLRs, so I would guess that is a big part of your dilemma. You mentioned you weren't getting good results with the SensorKlear and for good reason if you've got a lube build-up. Likewise, a sensor brush will be futile sweeping up oil, too, that's why a good wet-clean is mandatory every so often.

The good news is that once all of the oil is removed, dry tools work the way they were intended to work, picking up all of the loose dust and debris from the sensor's surface. You can use a static-brush everyday if you wish, and the SensorKlear pen once or twice a week, then, depending on how much you shoot, you can wet-clean maybe once or twice a month. A good rule of thumb to judge lubricant build-up is when your dry tool isn't working as well as it should, this is because lubricant can be very hard to see even with a loupe.

Nicholas
www.copperhillimages.c​om

thanks
and thanks for the links
did you use some precautions before a wet clean to avoid scratches ?

Nicholas R. wrote in post #11516398
The camera manufacturers have been using more and more lubricant on the moving parts inside D-SLRs,

Why? Are they trying to increase shutter life? Or perhaps reduce noise. Why don't they use PTFE type dry lubricants.

mantra wrote in post #11516565
thanks
and thanks for the links
did you use some precautions before a wet clean to avoid scratches ?

mantra,

You must have a good look at the surface before touching it, preferrably with a scope of some kind. Even with the naked eye, if you see a particle as big as let's say a grain of pepper, you must try to remove it from the sensor before proceeding. In a case like this, a Rocket blower may be able to shoo it off the sensor, I'm not too concerned with where it goes as long as the swab won't run into it. If the Rocket doesn't budge it, then you can try canned-air, just like Canon-technicians use. Logically, the same precautions must be taken before using the SensorKlear. But if all your efforts to remove the big speck fail, then it's advisable to send it to the manufacturer to clean.


draketheoutlaw,

Yes, they are trying to maximize the life of the shutter. In the early years of sensor cleaning, we were all trying to find out the cause of super-stuck dust specks. The best theory back then was that the dust attached itself to moisture and settled and dried on the sensor surface. But a few years ago we started to see actual droplets of oil appear in photos, so today, we can firmly see the cause of super-stuck specks as a combination of the 2 chamber invaders - moisture which latches onto loose dust and lubricant which is splattered on the sensor every time the shutter is engaged.

Nicholas