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Jan 07, 2011 12:10 |  #1

What is the best flash modifier arrangement for a hair light for portraits? A flash with a snoot or a flash with barn doors? I'd be using it for Alien Bees.

My guess is if it's just a single person in the portrait a snoot would be best. If there are more subjects than one with barn doors.

Thanks in advance for your help.




  
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Jan 07, 2011 12:14 |  #2

I think you just answered your own question.




  
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Jan 07, 2011 12:20 |  #3

For single portraits i use a snoot


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Jan 07, 2011 13:59 |  #4

I use a flash and a empty pringles can LOL


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Jan 07, 2011 14:02 |  #5

It also depends on what sort of look you're going for. Is it subtle separation from the background, a 1980's glamour shot, soft lighting to accentuate a hair style, etc.? I'll use a snoot sometimes, but more often I use a small softbox or stripbox because I just like that look better. Experiment and see what you like.


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Jan 07, 2011 14:19 |  #6

MDoc wrote in post #11593359 (external link)
I use a flash and a empty pringles can LOL


Wise guy! ;)

I only wish Pringles made bigger cans that would fit the Bees.




  
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Jan 07, 2011 14:22 |  #7

sdipirro wrote in post #11593388 (external link)
It also depends on what sort of look you're going for. Is it subtle separation from the background, a 1980's glamour shot, soft lighting to accentuate a hair style, etc.? I'll use a snoot sometimes, but more often I use a small softbox or stripbox because I just like that look better. Experiment and see what you like.

Thanks for your reply. I thought one would have to have more light control such as a snoot or barn doors to prevent lens flair. How do you prevent flair with a strip box? Flags?




  
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Jan 07, 2011 14:34 as a reply to  @ Hank E's post |  #8

I too am experimenting (and open to cc's please) here is one I did with a snoot for the hair light placed 5' above and behind the subject. Used a BD camera left and a large soft box camera right plus a wink of light towards the background with a 4rth light. Hope this helps.

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Jan 07, 2011 15:03 |  #9

I sometimes use the standard 7" reflector with a 10 degree grid in it.
Or the stripbox with grid.


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Jan 07, 2011 16:52 |  #10

george m w wrote in post #11593741 (external link)
I sometimes use the standard 7" reflector with a 10 degree grid in it.

I've been doing this, too. A friend of mine has the PCB snoot. I was going to borrow it from him sometime to try it out.


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Jan 07, 2011 17:00 |  #11

The trouble I have gotten into trying to use a snoot is by it's nature it tends to be so very narrow that as the model makes slight moves fore/aft, left/ right she may move out of the most optimal position in the beam of light from the snoot. Using grids in the 7" reflector ( I have the complete set, so I can choose how wide a spread I want ) gives me a little more latitude in allowing her to move around a little. The grids still give me control over not creating unwanted lens flare.
Edit: and with the wider grids, I usually have the barn doors on there too, since there is really no downside to them, and they can be used to further control flare.


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Jan 07, 2011 17:03 |  #12

I use a 7" reflector and a 30 deg grid


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Jan 07, 2011 20:53 |  #13

Yeah, I should have said that I use gridded small softboxes or gridded strip boxes. The strip boxes are narrow (12" I believe) and with a grid, there's pretty good light control. I've also used a gridded 22" beauty dish as a hair light.


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Jan 07, 2011 21:49 |  #14

Mostly gridded strip box.


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