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Jan 07, 2011 20:56 |  #1

Apart from changing its mount, the most common mod applied to the 22" Speedotron beauty dish involves replacing its stock translucent central diffuser with opaque material to make it behave more like other BDs. That was one of the first things I did with mine.

Here's another easy mod that will also change the character of the light produced by the Speedotron dish:

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What you see in the photo is a Speedotron dish with its central translucent diffuser surmounted by a 15-degree grid. As you would expect, the grid limits dispersion of light coming through the central diffuser. Unchecked, this dispersion tends to dilute the desirable beauty dish effect. With the grid, a bright central core is projected with rapid radial fall-off.

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The grid used in this experiment was sourced from Paul C. Buff. It's the 15-degree grid made for PCB's 8-1/2" reflector. This grid fits comfortably within the Speedotron's three diffuser retention points.

Mounting the grid was straightforward: Some time ago, I had replaced the three stock brass paper fasteners that Speedotron supplies with the dish with three 1/2" 6-32 screws. This was done to allow easy installation of an 8" aluminum disk as seen in this photo:

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This photo shows one of the 6-32 screws passing through the rim of the central diffusion disk:

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To secure the grid on top of the diffusion disk, 1/2 long, internally threaded, 6-32 nylon standoffs were used (http://www.drillspot.c​om …008_female_roun​d_standoff (external link)). The Buff grid is approximately 1/2" thick. Here one is seen threaded onto the exposed 6-32 screw:

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The grid seats nicely inside the three nylon standoffs. To retain the grid, three computer case thumb screws (which, fortuitously, happen to be 6-32) were used:

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Though not really necessary, I will probably be adding washers under the thumb screws.

The gridded dish with the modeling light off:

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Other than shooting light patterns against a backdrop, I haven't yet had a chance to test the gridded dish with a live subject or even a mannequin for that matter. However, I think this mod has potential. We'll see.

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Jan 07, 2011 21:08 |  #2

I'd be very curious to see the projected light and the way it falls on a subject if you're going to shoot samples, Dave. :D


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Jan 07, 2011 21:13 |  #3

Interesting...grab a guinea pig for some testing :-)


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Sep 24, 2015 15:22 |  #5

Inspired mostly by this ancient and revered thread, among others, I recently tried my hand at improving upon the stock Speedo BD.

I used C-clips in place of JB Weld, but otherwise copied Tetrode. First I just added extra layers of diffusion, but that did little to reduce the hot spot, and I found myself going back to my other dish even though I don't really care for the "donut" effect.

I'd long thought a half-silver (2-way) mirror would be ideal - reflect backwards like a standard BD deflector, but let some light through to kill the dead spot in the center. Finally (duh) it occurred to me to try mirror film on a piece of glass. Shopping for an 8" glass disc, I bought one clear, and one white for variety.

The glass I found was slightly too big to fit inside the standoff and I had to cut notches, but applying the mirror film was easy enough, as my standards of perfection were pretty low.

Haven't had a chance to test yet, but eyeballing from the modeling light (and I little wild guessing) has me leaning to using them both together, stacked. I will try to update with real-life samples soon.

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