Canon 1D MK II Shutter Count

I purchased a Canon 1D MK II for a great price from a reputable seller on eBay. The seller states that the shutter count has 10K clicks but when I used the http://www.foxbat.me.u​k/2.0/index.php#/frees​oftware software it gave me a shutter count of 106K.

The seller was able to retrieve the Canon Repair invoice (sent me a copy via email) which had a shutter count of 8K plus the 3K the seller stated for a total of 10K. I feel good that Canon would have the accurate shutter count and that the seller did not put on 94K clicks in 30-60 days (possible but not likely).

Other than me sending into Canon does anyone have the ability to check shutter count if I were to send them a JPEG or RAW file?

Thanks

Download and run 1dcount?

Seriously though, you don't see too many 1dm2's with only 10k original actuations. It's more likely that the shutter was replaced 10k shots back, and Canon is reporting that figure? Canon doesn't actually reset the count on the board when they replace a shutter...

That's right. When I had my MKIIN's shutter replaced, the counter was not reset either.

MOkoFOko wrote in post #11600141
Download and run 1dcount?

Seriously though, you don't see too many 1dm2's with only 10k original actuations. It's more likely that the shutter was replaced 10k shots back, and Canon is reporting that figure? Canon doesn't actually reset the count on the board when they replace a shutter...

That was the primary reason I jumped all over this camera was the ultra low shutter count. I ran 1Dcount and it's also giving me a count of 106,825. In reviewing the Canon invoice (the camera serial number is the same as on the invoice) it states a "shot count of 8398". So, I'm assuming the total clicks is 8398.

Not sure which number to rely on.

So the more I think about it that's not too bad if the shutter was replaced and only has 10k clicks. If Canon did the replacement would they be able to give that info or history if I gave them the serial number?

effstop wrote in post #11600766
So the more I think about it that's not too bad if the shutter was replaced and only has 10k clicks. If Canon did the replacement would they be able to give that info or history if I gave them the serial number?

I've done a lot of checking, and it's the ORIGINAL shutter number that matters in determining the price. You can say the shutter was just replaced, and provide documentation to prove as much, but more often than not it won't increase the value of a working body that never had the shutter replaced.

I'd say it's a safe bet the programs aren't lying--and that my original assessment was correct. If you try and sell it, people will check the count, and they'll see 100k shots. Your body is worth $600-$700 at this point. Now, if it had an actual original count of 10k, it might be worth $850-$900.

Personally, I would return it--it's a right you reserve as an ebay buyer. Canon documentation can be doctored or forged. The count itself cannot be wiped clean (short of going through expensive 3rd party shutter replacement services that promise to reset your shutter count).

No, canon will NOT give you a history report over the phone. You need to have it sent in for a general check or cleaning, at which point they'll be happy to provide you with an indepth history report on the unit.

MOkoFOko wrote in post #11600870
I've done a lot of checking, and it's the ORIGINAL shutter number that matters in determining the price. You can say the shutter was just replaced, and provide documentation to prove as much, but more often than not it won't increase the value of a working body that never had the shutter replaced.

I'd say it's a safe bet the programs aren't lying--and that my original assessment was correct. If you try and sell it, people will check the count, and they'll see 100k shots. Your body is worth $600-$700 at this point. Now, if it had an actual original count of 10k, it might be worth $850-$900.

Personally, I would return it--it's a right you reserve as an ebay buyer. Canon documentation can be doctored or forged. The count itself cannot be wiped clean (short of going through expensive 3rd party shutter replacement services that promise to reset your shutter count).

No, canon will NOT give you a history report over the phone. You need to have it sent in for a general check or cleaning, at which point they'll be happy to provide you with an indepth history report on the unit.

I picked up the kit w/3 batteries, a few sd cards, and a bag for $750 which with the shutter count was a fair deal. I will try to work a discount $50-100 as I flip my gear quite a bit and would make more sense on a resell. If not will opt for the return and make a move on a CLP 7D.

I bought my 1d mkii recently previous owner claims 8900 shutter count n new shutter. No reset on the shutter count.

my 1D mk2 shutter count is still going strong at 346,934 !?

Check a fresh raw here:

foxbat shutter count tool

Canon = Confidence

SexyRed wrote in post #11602252
I bought my 1d mkii recently previous owner claims 8900 shutter count n new shutter. No reset on the shutter count.

That's how it works. The only way to prove it is with canon documentation.

effstop wrote in post #11600133
I purchased a Canon 1D MK II for a great price from a reputable seller on eBay. The seller states that the shutter count has 10K clicks but when I used the http://www.foxbat.me.u​k/2.0/index.php#/frees​oftware software it gave me a shutter count of 106K.

The seller was able to retrieve the Canon Repair invoice (sent me a copy via email) which had a shutter count of 8K plus the 3K the seller stated for a total of 10K. I feel good that Canon would have the accurate shutter count and that the seller did not put on 94K clicks in 30-60 days (possible but not likely).

Other than me sending into Canon does anyone have the ability to check shutter count if I were to send them a JPEG or RAW file?

Thanks

There is no way to accurately determine the shutter count on the 1D Mk II as users. The only accurate count will come from Canon.

The count that you are able to read with Foxbat or 1DCount is very easy to change with a hex editor by editing a settings file, simply loading a settings file from another body, or loading a settings file that was created earlier in the camera's life. The count that we are able to read at the time of the creation of the settings file is going to be the count the camera will have when you reload the settings file onto the camera meaning if someone created a settings file when they first got the camera with only 1 click and then reloaded that settings file after 100k clicks, the count that you can read with Foxbat or 1DCount would read only 1 click.

tfd888 wrote in post #11609377
There is no way to accurately determine the shutter count on the 1D Mk II as users. The only accurate count will come from Canon.

The count that you are able to read with Foxbat or 1DCount is very easy to change with a hex editor by editing a settings file, simply loading a settings file from another body, or loading a settings file that was created earlier in the camera's life. The count that we are able to read at the time of the creation of the settings file is going to be the count the camera will have when you reload the settings file onto the camera meaning if someone created a settings file when they first got the camera with only 1 click and then reloaded that settings file after 100k clicks, the count that you can read with Foxbat or 1DCount would read only 1 click.

mine has only 16k activations - how many sellers are gonna try to upload a new settinmgs file?

I asked in our closest service center, and they say they do reset the counter when they replace the shutter. But that still wouldn't explain your number, because you should be seeing the same low count Canon gives. In any case, a prospective buyer will only care about what they see when you want to resell.

What did you end up doing?