Help please..

James Emory wrote in post #11611855
Not to change the subject, but how do you do a screen shot? I see you posted a pic of the convert and save window.

With Windows 7, Start > All Programs > Accessories > Snipping Tool.

I have it pinned to my task bar so I can bring it up with one click anytime I need a screen shot.

So I just tried to take the "lesser quality" shot that I converted from a RAW file to JPG and sharpen it back up in the Zoombrowser program. It looked great. I went to save as... and saved it and got a message that said something along the line of "some of the shooting info may be lost with the saving process". I said fine, go for it, and POOF...unsharp image saved again. I don't know what's up.

Rimmer wrote in post #11611881
With Windows 7, Start > All Programs > Accessories > Snipping Tool.

I have it pinned to my task bar so I can bring it up with one click anytime I need a screen shot.

Hey, that's neat. Thank you! I thought it would have something to do with print screen. I tried playing with that but could never get it to work all the time.

Compare sharpness at 100%.
The CR2 and the jpg should look about identical. If they don't something is wrong.

CR2 in DPP, converted jpg in PSCS4:

idsurfer wrote in post #11612022
So I just tried to take the "lesser quality" shot that I converted from a RAW file to JPG and sharpen it back up in the Zoombrowser program. It looked great. I went to save as... and saved it and got a message that said something along the line of "some of the shooting info may be lost with the saving process". I said fine, go for it, and POOF...unsharp image saved again. I don't know what's up.

Well this stinks! I'm about out of ideas for the moment. As you've seen from at least two people now, this shouldn't be happening. Have you tried opening the "lesser quality" JPG back in DPP (the RGB tab) and sharpening it? You shouldn't have to do that, but it would be an experiment.

idsurfer wrote in post #11612022
So I just tried to take the "lesser quality" shot that I converted from a RAW file to JPG and sharpen it back up in the Zoombrowser program. It looked great. I went to save as... and saved it and got a message that said something along the line of "some of the shooting info may be lost with the saving process". I said fine, go for it, and POOF...unsharp image saved again. I don't know what's up.

Are you viewing he saved version at the same size as the raw version. Some programs dont scale down very well so large images appear fuzzy in certain viewers.

Rimmer wrote in post #11612224
Well this stinks! I'm about out of ideas for the moment. As you've seen from at least two people now, this shouldn't be happening. Have you tried opening the "lesser quality" JPG back in DPP (the RGB tab) and sharpening it? You shouldn't have to do that, but it would be an experiment.

Just for the halibut, I'd try uninstalling your photo editing programs and reinstalling and see if that corrects the problem. Sure seems like you have a glitch in the program somewhere...you seem to be doing everything correctly. Something else you might want to try is to actually print a sharpened photo after you saved it and see if it looks sharp like your sharpened photo in the Zoom Browser.

More ideas:

1. Please do make a comparison of a DPP JPG with a camera JPG and let us know the results.

2. I agree with James that it sounds like something is corrupted. Do you have a way to host a RAW file somewhere so that I could download it? I would like to run it through both DPP and ACR and see what I get. If I don't have a problem then there may be something wrong with your software; if I do have the same problem then there might be something wrong with your RAW files (=> camera problem?)

Rimmer wrote in post #11612409
More ideas:

1. Please do make a comparison of a DPP JPG with a camera JPG and let us know the results.

2. I agree with James that it sounds like something is corrupted. Do you have a way to host a RAW file somewhere so that I could download it? I would like to run it through both DPP and ACR and see what I get. If I don't have a problem then there may be something wrong with your software; if I do have the same problem then there might be something wrong with your RAW files (=> camera problem?)

Just curious, can you host RAW photos on Flicker?

Thanks for all the sugestions, I opened the "lesser quality" image again in ZB and sharpened it up again. THen compared to the RAW file and I think they are very, very close. I will try to get the RAW image up somewhere in the near future and let you folks get at it. IN the meatime, I have my 3 yo's B-day party to photograph. I think I will stick with JPG today!

Cheers...it is all so fun!

Rimmer -
This is OT, but in an earlier post you wrote something that indicates a misunderstanding. You wrote, "So, here are a couple of 100% crops from the Quick Check Tool in DPP, the first being an unadjusted RAW file,..." First, Quick Check always shows the jpg made and embedded in the RAW file by the camera. That's why it's "quick." Any other display (Edit page or Edit Image page) has to do an on-the-fly conversion from the RAW data to an RGB image according to the tool palette configuration, which takes several seconds. And second, because of this there is no such thing as an image from "an unadjusted RAW file"; it is always either default-adjusted or user-adjusted.

I know it is difficult to remember that although we talk about seeing the RAW we never actually do. We see a provisional conversion.

James Emory wrote in post #11612570
Just curious, can you host RAW photos on Flicker?

Nope. RAW files aren't really images, just raw data that can be processed into an image. Could upload to Windows Live SkyDrive or Google Docs, though, for example.

Elie -- Thank you! That is a very important clarification and not off topic at all. But it adds to my puzzlement as to why DPP shows him a "good" image and then produces a "bad" one.

???

I had never thought about what it is that DPP is really "showing".

tzalman wrote in post #11613078
Rimmer -
This is OT, but in an earlier post you wrote something that indicates a misunderstanding. ...

I don't think I have helped the OP at all today, but I'm certainly getting smarter!

As I mentioned, I had never thought about what it is that DPP shows. Perhaps a better word would be "renders," at least with regard to the edit window. Well, this might explain why the Quick Check rendering of the RAW and TIFF didn't look quite the same, since one was the embedded JPG. I just redid the TIFF, then looked at both the RAW and TIFF in the Edit window rather than the Quick Check window, and they appear identical to me.

This has been quite a day. I finally figured out why I couldn't get my 270EX to work in Slow Synchro mode. It's because I didn't have Slow Synchro turned on!

Hope we can guide the OP to the same degree of success eventually.

idsurfer --

New day, new plan.

I have uploaded a RAW file (12.5 MB) and a JPG image (9.7 MB) that was produced from that RAW file using DPP. Both are absolutely unedited. The JPG looks perfectly clear and crisp on my computer.

I would recommend downloading both of those files and then running the RAW through your copy of DPP. Then compare your output with mine. Based on your results we might be able to figure out our next step. You might also try posting a 100% crop from your output for us to view.

You can download my files from here; you will be looking for IMG_1061.CR2 and IMG_1061.JPG (that page doesn't seem to show file extensions, but they are displayed on mouse-over):

http://cid-49ba2736ad2c2f60.offic​e.live.com/browse.aspx​/.Public?uc=2

Here is a small version of what you will be getting:

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