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Nov 08, 2011 18:59 |  #2686

thanks for the reply. My feeling on it (or at least with the movie theater shot) is that you should have included more people scattered around. I think you should either leave it bare of people or have it filled with people (or as many as looks natural without block the architecture.) I totally understand about the realism part and adding people certainly add to that. Adding, say 2-3 groups of people to that cinema shot would be ideal IMO.


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Nov 08, 2011 19:49 |  #2687

mikekelley wrote in post #13372565 (external link)
Just been doing it a little more lately. I can include them or get rid of them with the click of a button, they're just a layer in photoshop - but the thing is - I think it would look a little weird if I had a movie theatre completely devoid of people, you know? Like, here's a place that people are supposed to come and have a good time, yet it's completely free of people. A house exterior I can understand there not being people, though. And architecture is all about human interaction with the piece, so I figure I'd try it out. I have only done it a couple times but in this case, I also think the people help to break up the expanse of cement in front of the camera and add some motion and interest to an otherwise expansive shot.

I'm not really sure what I think of it either - I think it works in this shot, but like I said it's something I don't have much experience with, so I'm totally open to others' feelings on it.


I agree with including people in scenes where they belong. And of course the blurred people make a lot of sense. If your client uses the image for advertising, you don't have to get releases signed by the people. If you can't tell who they are...no need for a release! I got a shot of the Arkansas State welcome center near my town a few months back. It was after hours, sun setting. Everyone here loved it so I offered the image to the State of Arkansas to use in their printed material or postcards. Their response was the image was "too artsy" they would rather see people walking on the sidewalk and vehicles in the parking lot! So yeah I totally see you including people interacting with the business!


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Nov 09, 2011 00:19 |  #2688

mikekelley wrote in post #13369580 (external link)
Paulos, very cool shot!

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Thanks Mike, I'm a huge fan of your work. That setup shot is awesome on its own:D

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Ha! I'm not sure which is a more impressive shot - the close up or catching the camera catching the close up.

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My guess is that he had a remote to trigger both cameras at the same time.

Thanks, Adam.
He he Aaron, with these shots it's the flash that "freezes the action" so you don't need to worry too much about timing with a fairly long shutter speed. Got it right after a couple of tries.


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Nov 09, 2011 11:50 |  #2689

jmalonear wrote in post #13373191 (external link)
I agree with including people in scenes where they belong. And of course the blurred people make a lot of sense. If your client uses the image for advertising, you don't have to get releases signed by the people. If you can't tell who they are...no need for a release! I got a shot of the Arkansas State welcome center near my town a few months back. It was after hours, sun setting. Everyone here loved it so I offered the image to the State of Arkansas to use in their printed material or postcards. Their response was the image was "too artsy" they would rather see people walking on the sidewalk and vehicles in the parking lot! So yeah I totally see you including people interacting with the business!

Jay - no offense, but you are talking about Arkansas state gubbment...


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Nov 09, 2011 12:09 |  #2690

mikekelley wrote in post #13372565 (external link)
Just been doing it a little more lately. I can include them or get rid of them with the click of a button, they're just a layer in photoshop - but the thing is - I think it would look a little weird if I had a movie theatre completely devoid of people, you know? Like, here's a place that people are supposed to come and have a good time, yet it's completely free of people. A house exterior I can understand there not being people, though. And architecture is all about human interaction with the piece, so I figure I'd try it out. I have only done it a couple times but in this case, I also think the people help to break up the expanse of cement in front of the camera and add some motion and interest to an otherwise expansive shot.

I'm not really sure what I think of it either - I think it works in this shot, but like I said it's something I don't have much experience with, so I'm totally open to others' feelings on it.

There was just recently a post on Strobist about this subject - specifically relating to travel-type photography: http://strobist.blogsp​ot.com …assignment-4-results.html (external link)

"People are important subjects in travel packages. They allow us to better imagine ourselves in the destination, or simply to get a start on the people-watching we will certainly be doing while there.

Even landscapes and lodging photos will usually have a person shoehorned in there somehow. They are our surrogates, and are very important."



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Nov 09, 2011 16:49 |  #2691

I have really been wanting to do this but i have some questions.
1) can this be done with a canon t1i?
2)How do you make the water look so blue?

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Great thread! Very interesting to see how people set up for their shots.
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Nov 09, 2011 16:54 |  #2692

apixelintime wrote in post #13376113 (external link)
Jay - no offense, but you are talking about Arkansas state gubbment...

lol...true!


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Nov 09, 2011 16:55 |  #2693

mikeweddle22795 wrote in post #13377616 (external link)
1) can this be done with a canon t1i?

Nope. It doesn't have the "water droplet" mode on the higher level cameras.

(Yes. But you need a lens that focuses closely enough).

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2)How do you make the water look so blue?

Flash gels, blue food coloring, or something blue.


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Nov 09, 2011 18:08 |  #2694

TheBurningCrown wrote in post #13377632 (external link)
Flash gels, blue food coloring, or something blue.

Or Photoshop ;)


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Nov 09, 2011 18:13 |  #2695

Probably the easiest way is to have a blue background.


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Nov 09, 2011 19:03 |  #2696

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Or Photoshop ;)

Yeah, but that's cheating :p.


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Nov 09, 2011 21:14 |  #2697

TheBurningCrown wrote in post #13378222 (external link)
Yeah, but that's cheating :p.

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Nov 11, 2011 00:41 |  #2698

Can somebody make this thread a sticky please? Who's with me? :)

Thanks!


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Nov 11, 2011 05:28 |  #2699

mikekelley wrote in post #13372565 (external link)
Just been doing it a little more lately. I can include them or get rid of them with the click of a button, they're just a layer in photoshop - but the thing is - I think it would look a little weird if I had a movie theatre completely devoid of people, you know? Like, here's a place that people are supposed to come and have a good time, yet it's completely free of people. A house exterior I can understand there not being people, though. And architecture is all about human interaction with the piece, so I figure I'd try it out. I have only done it a couple times but in this case, I also think the people help to break up the expanse of cement in front of the camera and add some motion and interest to an otherwise expansive shot.

I'm not really sure what I think of it either - I think it works in this shot, but like I said it's something I don't have much experience with, so I'm totally open to others' feelings on it.

Mike, I completely understand you. I think moving people tend to "humanize" the picture, making it "human friendly".

However... I don't quite like the result on this one. Perhaps have "moving people" elsewhere?
I don't really know, but I don't quite like the "where" on this photo. Perhaps having "moving people" on that esplanade/porch?

PLEASE don't take my comments as an offence, PLEASE!!!
I am truly an admirer of your work and, I must say, you are inspiring me a lot to become an architechture photographer! ;)


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Nov 11, 2011 11:55 as a reply to  @ Crazy_Guitar's post |  #2700

This (final photo is shot from behind the statue...here I was walking around looking for a nice BTS shot)

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and this


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combined brought to this

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which is inside this, an art catalog printed last month...yuppiiii:D

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