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Jun 04, 2015 20:04 |  #8776

MalVeauX wrote in post #17584352 (external link)
Thanks for sharing your setup; I'm trying to get a handle on using speedlights outdoors for creative effect as well.

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It's hard to tell how far away your speedlight was, but given that you were using a 43" umbrella, and the relative size of the chair it looks like you may have had room to move it in quite a bit closer and pick up a few more stops worth of light - the ol' inverse light fall off rule works in both directions. I was able to get some nice results in mid-day light with a softbox and speedlights, but I had to be within about 1.5 to 3 feet.


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Jun 04, 2015 20:18 |  #8777

Spats139 wrote in post #17584572 (external link)
It's hard to tell how far away your speedlight was, but given that you were using a 43" umbrella, and the relative size of the chair it looks like you may have had room to move it in quite a bit closer and pick up a few more stops worth of light - the ol' inverse light fall off rule works in both directions. I was able to get some nice results in mid-day light with a softbox and speedlights, but I had to be within about 1.5 to 3 feet.

Heya,

The setup image is just where I threw it all down.

The light was actually closer for the final shot. It was ultimately within 3 feet, and it was 43". I lost a little power from distance, the gel took away a little more, and the umbrella itself.

I need to figure out the best zoom on the flash for this though, I'm thinking 24mm was not the way to go on the flash, but rather maybe something more zoomed in to concentrate the light more to get a little more out of it. I generally shoot it at 24mm in modifiers for the spread.

Keeping the 43" umbrella out of frame at 1.5 feet would have required me to simply dangle it from above (which I could have done with this boom, which is cool, as I didn't have that option before), and required a crop that was tighter too (or photoediting magic, which I tend to avoid needing if I can).

I'll try to get it closer and zoom the flash in more and see what kind of results I get tomorrow at high noon I think.

I'm thinking 4~5 stops of filter is where I need to be, at F2 and F2.8 or so. With full flash with the 1/4th CTO gel and umbrealla. So I'll test that, and get the umbrella overhead and pointing down to get it as close as I can without being in frame to see if I can squeeze another partial stop of light out of it. I'll post tomorrow after I do it!

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Jun 04, 2015 20:21 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #8778

Great, it will be interesting to see how that will change the look.


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Jun 04, 2015 20:44 |  #8779

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Great, it will be interesting to see how that will change the look.

Hopefully, the look I'm wanting is where ambient is darker and warmer. And flash exposing subject up. I like that, it's more dramatic. But doing so without any real post-work or software wizardry (not that I'm against it, I just don't want to do it). I found I liked the ambient look at F2 with 6 stops of ND, and 1/200s, as that put it about 1 stop below sunny 16 exposure. And I think my 6 stops stacked stop a little more than 6 stops honestly. It's why I'm thinking 4 stops is where I should be probably.

Removed some stuff not really on topic to the thread; and following up this post with today's work.

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Jun 05, 2015 17:01 |  #8780

Heya,

Ok, as mentioned, a re-do.

No gel on the flash this time, was a little over-cast but still bright out.
Full flash 1/1. 43" umbrella. I seated it closer to the umbrella, still used the 24mm spread on the flash.
The light source this time is much closer, and overhead pointing down around 45 degrees. Within 3 feet.
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1 stop CPL filter (effectively stacked for 4 stops, and the CPL effect for sky as a secondary attribute)

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Results:

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Jun 05, 2015 17:55 |  #8781

Great results Martin.


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Jun 05, 2015 18:51 |  #8782

Yes, this looks pretty darn good.
Been following your progress.
I think you nailed it with these.



  
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Jun 06, 2015 10:35 |  #8783

Great shots Martin!


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Jun 06, 2015 12:11 |  #8784

Sorry, But Saber had to take a break when I did the setup shoot.


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Jun 06, 2015 12:22 as a reply to  @ isvein's post |  #8785

Nice result, I would clone out the dust though.


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Jun 06, 2015 12:26 as a reply to  @ vertigo235's post |  #8786

Thanks :)
Yea, did not see it before now myself, thats what happens when you have the sun right in the window when editing.
This is also my first try on using plexiglass.

Forgot to add, the gird used in the reflector is an 10degree one


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Jun 06, 2015 14:10 |  #8787

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This is also my first try on using plexiglass.

it looks like you might just be relying on the black under/behind the plexi. If you paint it you will eliminate the double reflection (that I think I see in that pic).

here's a thread i started a while ago, complete with examples: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1417431


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Jun 06, 2015 15:45 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #8788

Nice idea.
I have some black paint somewhere that I used to paint the outside of an aquarium way back in the days.
The trix is to get it all smooth then I guess.


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Jun 06, 2015 15:59 |  #8789

First time working with a back-drop:

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Jun 06, 2015 16:39 |  #8790

isvein wrote in post #17586614 (external link)
Nice idea.
I have some black paint somewhere that I used to paint the outside of an aquarium way back in the days.
The trix is to get it all smooth then I guess.

I did nothing to make sure it was smooth. In fact my first coat of paint was rediculously uneven. Multiple light coats is the way to go. It's super simple.


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