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Jan 06, 2016 05:57 as a reply to  @ post 17846456 |  #9481

Great information. Thanks.


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Jan 06, 2016 16:00 |  #9482

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Jan 06, 2016 18:07 |  #9483

MalVeauX wrote in post #17835608 (external link)
Heya,

Something a little different. I went birding today, and figured I'd do a little "something" on the way back from the ocean as it got darker. I saw something like it before and wanted to try it. The main thing holding me back was getting my EOS-M to work with a wireless shutter that worked via radio, and my standard one that works with all my cameras now works with my EOS-M thanks to an old build of tragic lantern' for EOS-M that allows triggering via audio port and I just set the dampening to be really high so nothing trips it, other than my electronic signal from my wireless shutter release. Works like a charm. Let's me do fun stuff with the wee camera instead of trying to use a big bulky dSLR and big lenses, etc.

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EOS-M with 22mm F2 pancake lens, step up rings for a CPL (Marumi Super DHG) filter
Pixel Oppilas (generic?) wireless shutter release (dongle on the EOS-M, working thanks to tragic lantern build)
Yongnuo RF603c transceiver (to trigger my flash in the cabin with me)
Yongnuo 560 III in cabin with me at 1/4th power (I held it to bounce in front of me)
Generic double-suction metal mount with a standard tripod stud, hooked the M right to it. Held it strong going 70mph no problem several times.

Camera settings: 1/5s (I wanted it slow to get lots of motion blur, flash duration will be my exposure duration so no blur there), F11, ISO 100.
Note: CPL used, to kill reflections on the windshield, worked great. Also, it acts as a 1 stop ND filter as well, so it helped knock out more light for that long shutter duration.
I pre-focused on the windshield, depth of field does the rest, turned off autofocus.

I did this image later in the day when it was a bit darker so that I could stretch that shutter lower and lower, to get more and more blur. Again, flash duration is my exposure duration on me in the cabin which was basically black at this exposure level, so that took care of that.

Overall, I don't feel like I got the lighting right. I want it more diffuse, softer. But I was having a hard time bouncing it some where that didn't just cast weird shadows, or only light up one side of my face, etc. Will have to experiment in the cab while not driving to find something that works. If anyone has a good idea, I'm all ears!

Flash in the cabin with the remote shutter release:

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Heya,

Yea, I used a very inexpensive mount. It was maybe $50? There was a 3 suction cup version too for a little more. I wasn't ready to put a dSLR on there with a big lens (I actually picked up a cheap 10D for $40 from KEH that is great for adventure stuff like this and I wouldn't care if it broke, but, it doesn't take EF-S lenses! Doh! So I can't even use a cheap 18-55 kit lens for this kind of stuff, bleh!). So I opted to make my EOS-M work, and it worked great weight wise. The 22mm would get the whole windshield, but not a lot else, if I put it all the way forward and in the center. I will try this again since this was my first attempt. I want to get the shutter even slower too. I will stack some ND filters perhaps. I'll add a 3 stopper with my CPL and go from there.

Here's what I bought, a cheap "Fat Gecko" mount from Amazon. I got the Double version, cost a little more. But this single version will hold my EOS-M or a G16 or something very easy. (LINK) (external link). Primed, so you can return it within 30 days if you don't like it. Again, I bought the double. I wanted the triple, but ultimately I'm glad I didn't (due to cost) and also because I really didn't want to put a big heavy dSLR and big lens on the hood of my truck. I didn't do mine at 30mph... I did it at 70mph, lol.

If my 22mm pancake isn't wide enough, I'll just adapt on a 10-22 and do it wider. I wanted to get more trees and stuff to get more blur. The wider angle will help tolerate more shake/vibration too with a slower shutter speed hopefully. I had to do a few shots to get something relatively sharp.

The G16 is 28mm full frame equivalent on the wide end. My 22mm on APS-C is 35mm full frame equivalent. I think your G16 should do it fine. I'm going to opt for a bit wider on my next attempt with a 10-22 and try it around 16mm or so. Wide, but not ultrawide there (on APS-C). I want to get a lot more tree coverage. I may try ultrawide too.

I just fear that too wide will get less blur as the angle relative to movement during the exposure across the lens is less compared to a more telephoto focal length where that angle during exposure is almost the whole frame. I will try again though.

Very best,

A follow up to this...

I used the same setup today.

EOS-M + EF-M -> EF/EF-S adapter + EF-S 10-22 USM + Marumi CPL. Shot at 10mm on APS-C. The width definitely makes for a better more interesting view in a tunnel of trees to get more blur. I felt I got sharper shots even at this slow of a shutter than I did on the longer lens. Makes sense though.

Same trigger and shutter release and light. Went for a wider angle, and longer duration of shutter.

Yongnuo 560 III in the cab at 1/4th power.

** I can't seem to light up the cab nicely. It's either direct and harsh, or just too dark. The inside of my truck's cab absorbs light like crazy. I felt like I needed more lights, or just take my 600Ws strobe and blow up my cab and be done with it, lol.

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Jan 07, 2016 07:33 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #9484

Very cool results!


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Jan 07, 2016 07:35 |  #9485

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Very cool results!

Ya, but where's the pipe?:-P


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Jan 07, 2016 07:38 |  #9486

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Ya, but where's the pipe?:-P

I actually decided not to do it with my pipe this time. The last time I did it, the light made the smoke stand out too much and it often just masked my face, etc, and looked weird.

But, you gave me an idea, and I will try it soon. I will just fill the cab up with smoke, windows shut, no AC/Air on, and get a good haze going. Then light that up. See what it looks like. I'll use two lights next time. I think two or three lights at 1/4th power will yield enough spread without white washing everything.

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Jan 07, 2016 07:47 |  #9487

MalVeauX wrote in post #17848172 (external link)
I actually decided not to do it with my pipe this time. The last time I did it, the light made the smoke stand out too much and it often just masked my face, etc, and looked weird.

But, you gave me an idea, and I will try it soon. I will just fill the cab up with smoke, windows shut, no AC/Air on, and get a good haze going. Then light that up. See what it looks like. I'll use two lights next time. I think two or three lights at 1/4th power will yield enough spread without white washing everything.

Very best,

Ah, Cheech and Chong style;-)a


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Jan 07, 2016 07:50 |  #9488

You can post whole tutorials on using smoke as a diffuser.

Is the ceiling of your truck fabric covered foam that you could easily pin some white fabric to?


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Jan 07, 2016 07:51 |  #9489

travisvwright wrote in post #17848185 (external link)
You can post whole tutorials on using smoke as a diffuser.

Is the ceiling of your truck fabric covered foam that you could easily pin some white fabric to?

Heya,

Most of the cab is a grey fabric, it soaks up light. Pinning some white paper or something would be pretty simple and that's a great idea that I didn't think of, I'll probably try that.

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Jan 07, 2016 08:40 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #9490

Great results, but the photos look washed out and dull to me, maybe add some vibrance for some punch or something? Anyhow, I really want to do this one day too! I really like the look.


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Jan 07, 2016 08:58 |  #9491

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Great results, but the photos look washed out and dull to me, maybe add some vibrance for some punch or something? Anyhow, I really want to do this one day too! I really like the look.

That's my processing actually, the originals are bright and mid-day with clouds & bits of blue sky.

Lately I've just been favoring crushing the blacks with curves and going for an old unsaturated, tinted, washed out look for the fun/creative/experieme​ntal photos.

Example without my dingy processing, something more vibrant.


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Jan 07, 2016 10:20 |  #9492

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Jan 07, 2016 10:29 |  #9493

This is my first attempt at "slow water", I took my new tripod and Triggertrap setup out for a test run with Nikon D750 and a few lenses. I learned that 12 degree weather will drastically reduce the time little kids will let you photograph but it times out well with how long it takes an iPhone to freeze.


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Jan 07, 2016 10:39 |  #9494

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This is my first attempt at "slow water", I took my new tripod and Triggertrap setup out for a test run with Nikon D750 and a few lenses. I learned that 12 degree weather will drastically reduce the time little kids will let you photograph but it times out well with how long it takes an iPhone to freeze.
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Jan 07, 2016 10:48 |  #9495

Strobist Info: Canon 430 EX II visible in frame, triggered by a Canon 90EX (did not contribute to exposure, trigger only)

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