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Aug 30, 2016 02:40 |  #10051

DThriller wrote in post #18110260 (external link)
I'm surprised that two speed lights lit up that whole umbrella and was that bright.

Very nice shot

That's the reason why I sold my Elinchrom RX One. With my 4 YN560III I'm more flexible and I got more power. With the right light modifier you can get more light than a bare speedlight because the spill is reduced. I tested many parabolic umbrellas with speedlights and this one I used has nearly a perfect parabolic shape: https://www.dropbox.co​m …105cm_dslr-forum.jpg?dl=0 (external link)

So there is a focal point (~19cm...23cm) in the umbrella. If you place a speedlight (bare or with diffusion cap) there, the whole modifier is lit and you get the most light output: https://www.dropbox.co​m …ep_umbrella_dua​l.jpg?dl=0 (external link)

I built a dual flash bracket that both speedlights are getting close to the focal point. At full power with two speedlights you get about f/22 + 0.33EV; ISO100 in 1.5m distance with no diffusion sock. Quiet enough for all situations. The sock is eating up about 1 EV (EDIT: 2 EV, 1 EV was wrong). Here is the selfmade bracket: https://www.dropbox.co​m …/03_dual_bracke​t.jpg?dl=0 (external link)

I tested various distances, speedlight brackets and umbrellas. In the German www.dslr-forum.de (external link) you can find about 60 pages just about the parabolic umbrellas. There I posted most of my knowledge. And on my website (http://flopix.de (external link)) you can find a sheet with different distances in one 60" umbrella with a quad bracket that shows the light reflex. Not much flexible as a Broncolor Para but also quiet nice (especially for speedlights).

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Do you mind if I ask how you got the warmer skin tones....... gel? local pp? Also I'm interested in where you obtained your umbrella. With the right bracket would there be any reason 3 speedlights wouldn't fit? Great photo, thank you sir

Good point but I don't like uneven numbers. ;-)a Makes the calculation more complicated. But I also built a quad flash bracket: https://www.dropbox.co​m …V0MgcmTz3rASjP4​-LzDJ8AXWg (external link)
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The problem here is: it's heavy and that's the reason why the design is like it is: it balances out the weight of the bigger umbrellas and the four speedlights. The disadvantage is that you not getting that close to the umbrella shaft. But I'm quiet happy with that for umbrellas starting at 60" of size.

For the photo above I did not use any gel. And of course no local color adjustments, just global fix for warmer colors and RAW development.

I got my umbrella from alibaba.com: it's called "new product deep parabolic Studio Umbrella manufacturer china phtography" and the vendor is MingXing. They are quiet similar to the expensive Profoto deep umbrellas for what I can judge regarding to their product photos.

Hope that all helps a little bit. Cheers!


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Aug 30, 2016 09:26 |  #10052

Kind of a weird one here

Shot a wedding at a blowing alley and needed a shot of the bride throwing a ball

Set up a 580 on a stand and tried to grab focus in almost pitch dark. This was a lucky shot.

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Aug 30, 2016 10:24 |  #10053

What camera is that you are using??


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Aug 30, 2016 13:03 as a reply to  @ PJmak's post |  #10054

A7RII. I use my Canon glass and a Metabones adapter so I have the L bracket mounted on the Metabones rather than the camera, which is probably why it looks a bit odd.


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Aug 30, 2016 13:04 |  #10055

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And just like the average gear head the gears aren't even connected, eh? :p

They're stuck in a quagmire of museum wax. :lol:


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Aug 30, 2016 13:12 |  #10056

Scatterbrained wrote in post #18111449 (external link)
A7RII. I use my Canon glass and a Metabones adapter so I have the L bracket mounted on the Metabones rather than the camera, which is probably why it looks a bit odd.

Yea that and the size ration between the tiny camera and head...:-D


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Aug 30, 2016 16:34 |  #10057

DThriller wrote in post #18111275 (external link)
Kind of a weird one here

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Nice shot.

I would think this would be a great opportunity for a second curtain sync shot. Just a thought . . .


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Aug 31, 2016 21:04 |  #10058

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Nice shot.

I would think this would be a great opportunity for a second curtain sync shot. Just a thought . . .

Gotta love your avatar...


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Sep 01, 2016 05:22 |  #10059

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Thanks! Are you with the F-15's?


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Sep 01, 2016 07:43 |  #10060

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Thanks! Are you with the F-15's?

Sorry, no. Former USMC. Iwakuni 1st MAW.


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Sep 01, 2016 11:51 |  #10061


Good to see a post from you! And nice lighting!!


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Sep 01, 2016 12:37 |  #10062

Thanks. :)


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Sep 04, 2016 05:32 |  #10063

Just had a mom send me a photo from my Senior shoot last night.

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Sep 04, 2016 13:51 as a reply to  @ MysticFalcon's post |  #10064

Light from the strobe seems to be too cool compared to the ambient light.


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Sep 04, 2016 15:14 |  #10065

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Light from the strobe seems to be too cool compared to the ambient light.

Yes it does. And my Gels were way back at the car. Fortunately, they will never notice.


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