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Jan 11, 2011 17:11 |  #1

Sometimes I get carried away and overdo. Do these look heavy handed to you folks? Feel free to critique other problems you may see, as I'm a noob still and have only had my dslr for a week now.

Taken with a Canon 60D with a Canon 55-250mm is, ISO100, 171mm, f/5.6, 1/400sec.

Edit: I suppose my post processing steps would help. I did a few lighting and exposure touch ups in LR then took them to PS and used some actions I have for a little more contrast, sharpness, and pop.

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Jan 11, 2011 18:57 |  #2

Your editing doesn't look anywhere near as heavy as that bird.....

They look good to me - just a bit cramped in the cropping.


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Jan 12, 2011 10:24 |  #3

Titus213 wrote in post #11620730 (external link)
Your editing doesn't look anywhere near as heavy as that bird.....

They look good to me - just a bit cramped in the cropping.

Thanks! I was bummed I chopped off the top birds tail. The buggers certainly weren't afraid of me and kept creeping closer making it difficult to get a shot from a distance, which probably explains their obtuse shape!


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Jan 12, 2011 13:48 |  #4

please do this with a crow next time, i think they look splendid




  
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Jan 12, 2011 13:50 |  #5

I think the pp is a little over the top and unnatural. The very best post processing I've seen you can't tell it's been post processed.


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Jan 12, 2011 13:54 |  #6

i think he was intending for the bird to be a bit unnatural, to catch all the detail in the feathers,there is so much rich beautiful texture on the bird, which i think he did quite well, but it could definitely be brought down a tad for a more natural look.




  
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Jan 12, 2011 14:07 |  #7

oceanbeast wrote in post #11625762 (external link)
i think he was intending for the bird to be a bit unnatural, to catch all the detail in the feathers,there is so much rich beautiful texture on the bird, which i think he did quite well, but it could definitely be brought down a tad for a more natural look.

You can get detail by reducing the contrast and without the blown out effect that's evident here. The problem is the lighting in these pictures aren't balanced so it looks unnatural


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Jan 12, 2011 14:10 |  #8

It just looks a little over-sharpened to me. Everything else seems fine.




  
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Jan 12, 2011 14:11 as a reply to  @ oceanbeast's post |  #9

Here's an example I did that uses lower contrast to get more detail. The original was too dark around the face and the eyes were barely visible.

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Jan 12, 2011 15:40 as a reply to  @ drumsfield's post |  #10

All great feed back guys, thank you. I guess you could say that my "style" generally is very sharp, detailed, and a bit un-natural, I can imagine a lot of photographers hate that.

Drumsfiled, your photo of the bird is very pretty and very natural, but I get an itch to make it "pop" more, which is what gets me into trouble. Could you elaborate on what the "blown out" effect is you speak of? I thought that was when you have hot spots and overexposed areas? I see a few on the birds feet and beak, is that what you mean? Sorry if I sound dense, but I'm new to all this. I can post the SOOC pictures when I get home tonight to compare.

Oh and I am a she, not a he ;)


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Jan 12, 2011 15:51 |  #11

By "blown out" I mean your shadows and darks are brightened to a higher degree than your lights creating an unbalanced contrast graph. The results can be an increase in detail, but if overdone can feel unnatural. In your example it looks like you've increased the values of the shadows and darks in order to compensate for the bright highlights. (Think reverse S graph)

BTW I saw your flicker, your album looks great.


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Jan 12, 2011 18:40 |  #12

drumsfield, i would also like to see more on your technique, though the bird seems a little dark you are right he is super sharp, what lens did you use?




  
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Jan 12, 2011 18:57 |  #13

I used a Canon 100-400mm


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Jan 12, 2011 19:09 |  #14

no doubt some of the sharpness can be attributed to that beastking of a lens.




  
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Jan 12, 2011 20:01 |  #15

Boring ;) SOOC shots:

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