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70-200 4L USM to what?

 
mnash50259
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Jan 14, 2011 12:01 |  #1

Been reading alot, need some help deciding....40D for personal use only. 70-200 4L
used 70% of time outdoor MX and 30% inside sports. Would like to upgrade for more
stable inside work, but also still used mostly for outdoor MX. Considering a 70-200 4L IS or 70-200 2.8L w/out IS as budget is $1200. Want to buy new and focal length is fine for what I use this for. Now, I have never owned an IS lens..is the 4L IS going to be that much better than the non IS I have now or can I accomplish better indoor shots with the 2.8L non IS...sorry for the long post. Thanks for any advise you can give
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Jan 14, 2011 12:07 |  #2

IS is generaly not a pro or a con when you're shooting sports... Indoors however even 2.8 is a little slow so I'd go for primes! Just keep the F/4 if it gives you no major drawbacks and save yourself a bunch of money by buying the 85 1.8 for example!




  
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Jan 14, 2011 12:08 |  #3

IMO I would go for faster primes for inside sports. I don't think that 2.8 even with IS can make that big of a difference. 50mm1.4, 85mm 1.8, 28mm 1.8


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Jan 14, 2011 12:49 |  #4

Ive owned the 70-200 f/4, f/4 IS, and 2.8 non-IS and I prefer the f/4 IS out of all of them, even for indoor. Canon did very well with the ~four stop IS system. From f/4-->f/2 is not a huge difference, so I somewhat agree that a prime might be a good tool - depending on on what exactly your shooting and how good the available lighting is.


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Jan 14, 2011 13:11 |  #5

I.S. cannot help stop blur from subject movement if you are forced to use slower shutter speeds indoors. I.S. only helps reduce blur from camera shake.

Now, sometimes subject movement blur can be used to good effect in images.

And both camera blur and subject blur in an image can be pretty bad.

I.S. is very useful, even for indoor sports. Just don't expect it to stop subject motion. If you want to freeze the action all or some of the time, you still need a larger aperture lens and/or a camera that allows you to use higher ISOs, both of which can allow you to use faster shutter speeds in lower light situations.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. For example, 1/400 is a huge difference from 1/100 when trying to stop subject movement. So f4 > f2 can be the difference between being able to get the shot or not.

The choice between primes vs lenses most often comes down to whether you can move around and get the most out of a prime, or if you have limited movement around the event and need to quickly zoom from one part of the playing field to another with your lens. There can be times when one or the other is possible, so it's nice to have both types of lenses available. The ideal is the largest aperture lens you can get, with I.S. Second choice would be the largest possible aperture lens without I.S. At some point, though, a large aperture also can start to make depth of field too shallow.


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Jan 14, 2011 13:13 |  #6

what focal lengths are you using indoors? If it is the wider end of the 70-200 range, then consider a 100mm f2 or 85mm f1.8 as a compantion to the 70-200 f4. Continue to use the zoom in good light, but enjoy 4x the shutter speeds indoors.


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Jan 14, 2011 13:14 |  #7

I agree with Alan, IS helps your movement, not blur from others moving. The only thing that will help that is a faster prime.

If your problem is blur from the players then try the 85, or the 135L. plus both are under your budget and you can keep the 70-200 f/4


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Jan 14, 2011 20:42 as a reply to  @ gardengirl13's post |  #8

Thanks to all who replied! Alot to consider...




  
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