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Jan 14, 2011 23:14 |  #1

I'm about to print my first sheet of Ilford Galerie Gold Fibre Silk on my R1800 and I want to make sure everything is right before I click that unforgiving "print" button.

I have a couple of questions:
1. Gloss optimizer or no?
2. When I go to "Media Type" under "print settings" dialog and "print settings" drop down menu, only epson papers are listed there, but the ICC is loaded and showing as the working driver. What media type should I select here?

I'm in CS5.

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Jan 15, 2011 07:07 |  #2

T Kubik wrote in post #11643984 (external link)
I'm about to print my first sheet of Ilford Galerie Gold Fibre Silk on my R1800 and I want to make sure everything is right before I click that unforgiving "print" button.

I have a couple of questions:
1. Gloss optimizer or no?
2. When I go to "Media Type" under "print settings" dialog and "print settings" drop down menu, only epson papers are listed there, but the ICC is loaded and showing as the working driver. What media type should I select here?

I'm in CS5.

Thanks!

Tom

I would go to the ilford site. They're usually very good about posting complete print setting instructions and profiles.


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Jan 15, 2011 10:56 as a reply to  @ Picture North Carolina's post |  #3

When you downloaded the icc profile for your Ilford paper, you also got a PDF file which will answer all your questions.


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Jan 15, 2011 12:33 |  #4

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I would go to the ilford site. They're usually very good about posting complete print setting instructions and profiles.

I found the particular setting I was looking for, but I ran across something pretty interesting. They are suggesting I turn on Epson Vivid for "color," however, I thought you were supposed to have color set to "off" and let the ICC profile run the show. Your thoughts?

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When you downloaded the icc profile for your Ilford paper, you also got a PDF file which will answer all your questions.

CS5 printing isn't in there, and it's an exclusive setting to that.

Also, neither talk about the gloss optimizer :/


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T Kubik wrote in post #11646725 (external link)
I found the particular setting I was looking for, but I ran across something pretty interesting. They are suggesting I turn on Epson Vivid for "color," however, I thought you were supposed to have color set to "off" and let the ICC profile run the show. Your thoughts?

To be honest, that is odd. I've printed to the gamut of ilford papers but have never seen anything other than "photoshop manage colors." But I print to an Epson 3800 so perhaps it's just that different of an animal. Sorry, neither can I help with the optimizer. I have never had a printer with that tank in it.

I don't have CS5 so I'm just fartin' in the wind here, but I don't see how that is relevant. Unless CS5 changes drastically, all you normally do there is manage colors, specify the profile, soft proof for relative or perceptual, then go into the driver and set the rest there (paper type, resolution, etc.) which is Espon, not CS.

You got me curious why they would specify "vivid." Sorta' defeats the whole purpose of photoshop and color management.


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Jan 15, 2011 14:55 |  #6

T Kubik wrote in post #11646725 (external link)
I found the particular setting I was looking for, but I ran across something pretty interesting. They are suggesting I turn on Epson Vivid for "color," however, I thought you were supposed to have color set to "off" and let the ICC profile run the show. Your thoughts?...

Ilford's settings often fly in the face of usual color managed printing with an icc profile. Sometimes their instructions are the equivalent of "double profiling". You should take their instructions verbatim. The actual profile name includes the "key" for media type setting and color management. Usually, if the profile has a lower case "n" at the end of it, it means no color corrections.

Read the PDF, then read it again. I know in your mind, the little voices are saying, "This can't be right," but you have to ignore the voices and follow the instructions. Do a small test print if you're concerned about wasting paper and ink.

And I thought the gloss optimizer was automatic if you specify a glossy media type.


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Jan 15, 2011 14:58 as a reply to  @ ChasP505's post |  #7

If you go to the epson site and click printer settings, it indeed says vivid. However, if you go to support, profiles, then download yours, the 11-page pdf (zipped) says to take CM off. Sorry, can't forward the pdf, potn has no provision for exchanging files. Easy download, tho.


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