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Jan 16, 2011 01:40 |  #1

Pop Photo compare the 60D to the D7000. Very surprising iso results.

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Jan 16, 2011 01:43 |  #2

ISO aside, the D7000 is still the superior camera.


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Jan 16, 2011 01:48 |  #3

It is a very good camera, I completely agree on that. There just seems allot of 60D bashing here, and that the 7D is canons knight in shinning armor. Both the new canon and new nikon are very good camera. Each one does somethings better. Canon, you get better iso and hd. Nikon a better action camera. So it is not a superior camera, but a different animal.

The other surprise was that the canon with it's so call rebel AF system, out AF the d7000.


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Jan 16, 2011 03:19 |  #4

I have the 60D now and really got it for the screen and 9 cross type focus sensors. Unless you have been always using the center only sensor on the T2i, the sensors do a much better job.


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Jan 16, 2011 03:25 |  #5

Yup, the AF system tweaks canon did with the 50d AF is a bit better then allot of people give it credit for. It is a very well put together package. It might not have the fanfare of the 7D or the out of the box hype of the d7000 launch. But it is excellent performer that really does not get out done by it's peers.


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Jan 16, 2011 07:49 |  #6

I found the noise on the D7000 no better than the noise on my 7D when I tested it. I also wouldn't use the D7000 for sports or action photography because the buffer is too small. After ~15 to 20 frames shooting Large/Fine JPEG then buffer fills and slows down to 1 frames per second. It is even worse if you shoot RAW. The 60D shoots 0.7 frames per second slower, but has a large buffer so you can shoot at the maximum frame rate for a much longer period of time.


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Jan 16, 2011 07:50 |  #7

shoturtle wrote in post #11650628 (external link)
Yup, the AF system tweaks canon did with the 50d AF is a bit better then allot of people give it credit for. It is a very well put together package. It might not have the fanfare of the 7D or the out of the box hype of the d7000 launch. But it is excellent performer that really does not get out done by it's peers.

The 7d AF is closer to the 1d implementation than the 50d, in number of af points, after modes, and af speed.


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Jan 16, 2011 08:22 |  #8

shoturtle wrote in post #11650365 (external link)
It is a very good camera, I completely agree on that. There just seems allot of 60D bashing here, and that the 7D is canons knight in shinning armor.

You may not remember all the 7D bashing that went on when it was unveiled. There must be 1,000 "Sending my POS 7D to Canon because it won't focus" posts.

It happens with almost every camera on forum.




  
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Jan 16, 2011 08:35 |  #9

When the D7000 was announced, I thought the 60D was screwed. Not because it's a bad camera (it isn't) but because the D7000 seemed to peak more into "pro" territory (100% viewfinder, dual cardslots etc.) at around the same price point.

However, since then the prices have adjusted accordingly (mostly because the 60D price has gone down) and the D7000 now sits right in the middle between the 60D and the 7D.


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Jan 16, 2011 08:45 |  #10

I handled the D7000 at Best Buy, and regardless of the magnesium alloy body, it still feels like a D90 (small). If someone wanted to buy either a 60D or D7000, I would say "what do you friends have, Canon or Nikon?" then they can borrow lenses etc...


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Jan 16, 2011 09:09 |  #11

Erik_L wrote in post #11650354 (external link)
ISO aside, the D7000 is still the superior camera.

All the major reviews put them neck & neck. With IQ virtually the same it boils down to which fits you the best, what lenses you want and if you had to upgrade where would that be.

...the only people burying the 60D are the ones who have never handled one and many are the same people saying the 550D is fantastic and the 7D is awesome. Go figure. ;)




  
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Jan 16, 2011 11:41 |  #12

The 7D has the best aps-c AF system, for sport photog it is great. But the bashing I have read is the the 60D can do sports. And that is completely bogus. If your are the causal shooter that need action the 60D does a nice job.

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The 7d AF is closer to the 1d implementation than the 50d, in number of af points, after modes, and af speed.


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Jan 16, 2011 13:28 |  #13

The 60D review was quite possibly the worst Pop photo review ever written in terms of journalistic quality. Pop photo is now the People magazine of photography. The reviewer attacked other reviewers and called their reviews absolute BS. Also the way it was written was similar to a 10 year old who just lost an internet flame war (but then a 10 year old probably did write it). Don't forget how they hook cameras up to machines now and don't actually bother taking it into the field.

Btw, these got ripped at the Pop photo forums. (just search for it since I can't post links to other forums)

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The 7D has the best aps-c AF system, for sport photog it is great. But the bashing I have read is the the 60D can do sports. And that is completely bogus. If your are the causal shooter that need action the 60D does a nice job.

A Rebel or D3100 can do hockey.


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Jan 16, 2011 13:41 |  #14

My T1i can do hockey and soccer. Just to much bashing of the AF system by some members.


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Jan 16, 2011 15:47 |  #15

I was surprised that they rated the 60D's AF system superior to the Nikon, for most people it's a given that a Nikon AF system is superior to Canon's on most cameras, apparently not so, and this agrees with my less than scientific assessment from using the 60D's AF, I find it quick and accurate and it does perform well in low light too.

On another note: I am always amazed at the bashing almost all new cameras receive when they first come out. The 60D has gotten more than it's share, especially from the 7D Fan Club but the reality is the 60D is a terrific camera and perfect for many people. It's lower cost, lighter, still has plenty of features, is speedy and has options a plenty, handles very well and has at least as good of IQ and high ISO performance as the pricier and heavier 7D. To Paraphrase PopPhoto, it' surpasses the 50D in most area, and adds video. If that's not an upgrade I don't what is.




  
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