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D60 CR2 images can't open in photoshop. Why?

 
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Jan 19, 2011 06:57 |  #1

I know this question has been asked many times but I couldn't find a thread with an answer. I have just taken my first images with my D60 (upgraded from 1000D) and find that the CR2 images aren't recognised by Photoshop. I remember I had this issue when I first had my 1000D but cannot remember what I did. I have CS4 V11.0.2 and tried to update Camera Raw but it says no updates are available. I have Adobe Lightroom and that opens them ok but not Photoshop. Sorry .... but can anyone tell me again what the problem is? Thanks. :oops:




  
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Jan 19, 2011 07:01 |  #2

Maybe this tech note will help.
http://kb2.adobe.com/c​ps/407/kb407110.html (external link)


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Jan 19, 2011 07:26 |  #3

Thanks for your excellent reply. Very concise. I guess a new version of Photoshop is needed then! :-(




  
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Jan 19, 2011 12:21 |  #4

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Thanks for your excellent reply. Very concise. I guess a new version of Photoshop is needed then! :-(

Well, you have Lightroom so there is not a need to update Photoshop since Lightroom has the Raw processor that is in CS5 -- you can process you Raw files in Lightroom then just use the Edit in Photoshop function if/when you need to.


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Jan 19, 2011 12:29 |  #5

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Well, you have Lightroom so there is not a need to update Photoshop since Lightroom has the Raw processor that is in CS5 -- you can process you Raw files in Lightroom then just use the Edit in Photoshop function if/when you need to.

As I understand it, that is incorrect. Yes I can open the CR2 raw files in Lightroom 3 but I cannot edit them direct from LR to Photoshop CS4 in native format. Only if I convert to tiff or jpeg which I don't want to do at this stage.




  
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Jan 19, 2011 12:45 |  #6

Miqs wrote in post #11672783 (external link)
As I understand it, that is incorrect. Yes I can open the CR2 raw files in Lightroom 3 but I cannot edit them direct from LR to Photoshop CS4 in native format. Only if I convert to tiff or jpeg which I don't want to do at this stage.

If you don't want to transfer from LR3 to CS4, and want to process directly in Photoshop, then you have two options:
1. Convert the .CR2 files to .DNG format using Adobe's DNG converter, then open directly in CS4's Adobe Camera Raw.
2. Upgrade from CS4 to CS5, which will allow you to open the .CR2 files directly in Adobe Camera Raw.

Question - other than the inconvenience of having to get rid of the TIFF files once you're done editing in CS4, why not transfer the files from LR3 to CS4 as lossless compression 16 bit TIFFs? You lose none of the image data that way, and can do 16 bit editing in CS4 just as you could if you had opened the .CR2 image files directly in Photoshop's Adobe Camera Raw. I'm not aware of any advantage in editing RAW files transferred from Adobe Camera Raw in "native format" compared to editing a 16 bit TIFF. I'm also not sure that there is such a thing as RAW "native format" in Photoshop once it's left Adobe Camera Raw. I believe the RAW file ceases to be in "native format" as soon as the RAW converter demosaics the "raw" image data, applies a conversion curve, etc. The RAW file is simply a data file; it's not an image file until converted by the RAW converter.


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Jan 19, 2011 14:00 |  #7

tonylong wrote in post #11672722 (external link)
Well, you have Lightroom so there is not a need to update Photoshop since Lightroom has the Raw processor that is in CS5 -- you can process you Raw files in Lightroom then just use the Edit in Photoshop function if/when you need to.

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As I understand it, that is incorrect. Yes I can open the CR2 raw files in Lightroom 3 but I cannot edit them direct from LR to Photoshop CS4 in native format. Only if I convert to tiff or jpeg which I don't want to do at this stage.

You have to choose your workflow and determine your tools accordingly. If you prefer to be "Photoshop centric" then you either convert to DNG, update Photoshop, or use the Lightroom Save Metadata to File, in which case Bridge and Camera Raw can read an xml "sidecar" file and should be "mostly" compatible with LR3 edits.

With me, I use LR for all my Raw processing, and only open a file in Photoshop when the Raw processing is done and I actually need to do Photoshop work on it, which is not often. This works very well -- the image opens in Photoshop as a 16 bit tiff and I can do whatever to it and the tiff "project file" is automatically included in my Lightroom library.

The times I may go to open a file in Camera Raw through Bridge is when I'm doing a special project that would benefit from that approach, such as when I want to use the Photoshop Merge tools for something, although even for those you can open multiple files in Photoshop from Lightroom and then run the Merge tools (or HDR or whatever), so it's just a workflow question. If I do want to use Bridge for this type of thing it's simple to use the Write Metadata to File operation.


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Jan 20, 2011 09:31 |  #8

Miqs wrote in post #11672783 (external link)
Only if I convert to tiff or jpeg which I don't want to do at this stage.

Which is exactly what happens if you open a CR2 file through ACR into PS…

LR3 is a better Raw converter then ACR 5.7


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Jan 20, 2011 10:55 |  #9

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I'm also not sure that there is such a thing as RAW "native format" in Photoshop once it's left Adobe Camera Raw. I believe the RAW file ceases to be in "native format" as soon as the RAW converter demosaics the "raw" image data, applies a conversion curve, etc. The RAW file is simply a data file; it's not an image file until converted by the RAW converter.

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Which is exactly what happens if you open a CR2 file through ACR into PS…

Exactly. PS can only edit a temporary bitmap RGB image. Emphasis on temporary. Close the program without saving/writing it into a storage format and it's gone. And it can only write RGB image formats, so you have to end up with the same psd, tif or jpg that you would have gotten from LR.


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Jan 20, 2011 13:33 |  #10

Miqs wrote in post #11671222 (external link)
Sorry .... but can anyone tell me again what the problem is? Thanks. :oops:

After reading this thread, it looks to me like you don't have a problem at all.


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