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Jan 21, 2011 18:00 |  #1

hi guys, a newbie here just wanting to ask some questions and if possible to have it answered asap so i can get to work :eek:
i was just wondering how do you make a subject/ person more realistic and not like being pasted on because i just cleaned out a background due to its wrinkles and just changed it to pure white but now the person looked like it's just dangling there outta nowhere.
#2) how do you add something to the background like the colored circles (ones similar to alvarado's style if you know what i mean)



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Jan 21, 2011 18:28 |  #2

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Jan 21, 2011 18:41 as a reply to  @ ChasP505's post |  #3

a silly question, in the tutorial above mentioned, he said something about selecting the background so he can add the circle to the background, but i tried selecting the background and adding a new layer but nothing is happening, maybe i'm doing it wrong? sorry i'm such a newbie but can someone help me with this?



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Jan 21, 2011 21:16 |  #4

Autonomous wrote in post #11688310 (external link)
a silly question, in the tutorial above mentioned, he said something about selecting the background so he can add the circle to the background, but i tried selecting the background and adding a new layer but nothing is happening, maybe i'm doing it wrong? sorry i'm such a newbie but can someone help me with this?

It would help if you posted the image you're working on.


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Jan 21, 2011 22:14 as a reply to  @ Peano's post |  #5

ok here is the picture (there are other pictures like this so i have lots to work on), what i'm trying to achieve is clean up the background (by using color range), but kinda lost in trying to change the bg color but no biggie. i'm also trying to achieve so that the child doesn't look pasted on after doing so, and last adding the circles (alvarado's) behind her. the uneven lighting on her face is also hard to work on because there are apparently a million steps that needs to be done in order to achieve that perfect result.
if you can like guide me step by step using beginner's language:oops:, i would totally appreciate your help kind sir.
gosh i'm such a PS newbie :oops:

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Jan 22, 2011 10:41 as a reply to  @ Autonomous's post |  #6

Anyone?:rolleyes::cry:



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Jan 22, 2011 11:22 |  #7

Autonomous wrote in post #11689414 (external link)
ok here is the picture (there are other pictures like this so i have lots to work on), what i'm trying to achieve is clean up the background (by using color range), but kinda lost in trying to change the bg color but no biggie. i'm also trying to achieve so that the child doesn't look pasted on after doing so, and last adding the circles (alvarado's) behind her. the uneven lighting on her face is also hard to work on because there are apparently a million steps that needs to be done in order to achieve that perfect result.
if you can like guide me step by step using beginner's language:oops:, i would totally appreciate your help kind sir.
gosh i'm such a PS newbie :oops:

There are a TON of ways to do the same thing in PS. The tutorials for the processes I used are below. These all assume you are using CS4/CS5.

Skin retouching : http://www.youtube.com …ronrad1#p/u/1/H​wtuG107ack (external link)
(Use the step for Dodging and Burning to help the lighting on her face)

Selective Masking: http://www.planetphoto​shop.com/masking-with-channels-2.html (external link)

I personally find Alvarado's "selective color range" to be hit and miss. The channels masking tutorial above is difficult at first but yields better results.

To avoid the "cut and paste" look, when you make your selection, make sure the feather isn't "0" but rather ~3px or so depending on your resolution.

An easier way with light BG's like yours is to use the dodge tool with a soft feather set to "highlights" and dodge the BG away to pure white. Then after that you can use the selective color range tool.

To make her not look like she's floating in space, she needs a shadow of some sort. I just added a new layer and painted in a shadow. This step I admit I'm lacking talent so it looks a little cheesy. :p

PS: When shooting jumping subjects, 1/80 shutter speed is too slow. Try to use 200+. You can see motion blur in her feet.


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Jan 22, 2011 11:50 |  #8

Autonomous wrote in post #11688310 (external link)
a silly question, in the tutorial above mentioned, he said something about selecting the background so he can add the circle to the background, but i tried selecting the background and adding a new layer but nothing is happening, maybe i'm doing it wrong? sorry i'm such a newbie but can someone help me with this?

The general idea behind the tutorial:

In a single layer, select only the background (using the methods I showed above) so you can delete it leaving just the girl behind. Beneath the girl layer is a separate layer for the circle and beneath that layer is any solid color.




  
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Jan 22, 2011 13:30 as a reply to  @ kraaazymike's post |  #9

kind sir, i very much appreciate your help and all and may god bless you for that!!
but,

In a single layer, select only the background (using the methods I showed above) so you can delete it leaving just the girl behind. Beneath the girl layer is a separate layer for the circle and beneath that layer is any solid color.

i still don't quite "get" this one, lol i'm sorry (pardon my newbieness),
and how would you add the shadow or whatever it is to the girl to make it more believable?
but again, thanks very much i appreciate the time you took to explain all of this and editing the picture as well!



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Jan 22, 2011 19:16 |  #10

Autonomous wrote in post #11692697 (external link)
i still don't quite "get" this one, lol i'm sorry (pardon my newbieness)

Something tells me you aren't comfortable with the "layers" concept?




  
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Jan 22, 2011 22:02 as a reply to  @ kraaazymike's post |  #11

yeah, i'm pretty much a newbie that much i will admit and drop my pride :oops:



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Jan 22, 2011 22:19 |  #12

A good book for getting started with layers is the book "Layers" by Matt Kloskowski -- pretty quick tutorials arranged in sections covering various topics.

Also, the online site Lynda.com offers a monthly subscription for a very thorough bunch of totorials, and you can get a week's free trial if you want to devote the time for an off-and-running start.


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