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Weather-Resistant : 7D and Sandisk Extreme Compact Flash Question

 
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Jan 23, 2011 12:08 |  #1

Below is what is written about the weather-resistance of the two...my main question is,is it really a benefit that is needed on the Sandisk if it is being used in the weather sealed 7D?
1. I am just curious
2. I am also curious because I am looking at buying either the 16 GB Extreme 60MB/s ~$120 and has a $30 rebate or the Transcend 16 GB 400x which can be had for $49 at Newegg(Sold Out) also looking at the Transcend 32 GB 400x (60/90 read/write) for $75 at B&H).

The only cards I have ever used to date are Sandisk so part of me wants to stay with what I know but the Transcend is a very nice price but I have read that people love them and people that hate them so don't know what to really think.

Any and all help much appreciated...also, I did a search and didn't see anything about the weather proofing which is still my main question.

7D: The EOS 7D features a magnesium alloy body that is dust- and weather-resistant and shutter durability of up to 150,000 cycles. (external link)


Sandisk Extreme: Highly Durable:SanDisk Extreme cards feature RTV silicone coating for added protection against moisture and humidity. Tested to perform in extreme cold to hot environments (-13° to 185°F / -25°C to 85°C), Extreme cards are subject to rigorous stress, shock, and vibration testing. (external link)


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Jan 23, 2011 12:27 |  #2

I've had varioius cards over the years, but Sandisk is my favorite. I've never had a problem with Sandisk cards.

As for the "sealing" on the Sandisk card you are asking about......I think that is a seperate issue from the 7D's sealing. If the card is in the camera and mositure gets inside the camera, I'd be more worried about the camera's electronics than the compact flash card. When I read about the card's sealing, it sounds more like sealing from humidity. Maybe if you are going to the Antarctic or the rain forrest of Belize, then the card might be an advantage. But if you dont go to extreme places like that, I suspect what they are talking about is more for marketing than what you would really need.

Having said that, I would still pick a Sandisk card, but that is just my personal preferrence.


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Jan 23, 2011 12:43 |  #3

even if they were...that does not mean you can take them for a swim.


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Jan 23, 2011 12:46 |  #4

MGW172 wrote in post #11698342 (external link)
I've had varioius cards over the years, but Sandisk is my favorite. I've never had a problem with Sandisk cards.

As for the "sealing" on the Sandisk card you are asking about......I think that is a seperate issue from the 7D's sealing. If the card is in the camera and mositure gets inside the camera, I'd be more worried about the camera's electronics than the compact flash card. When I read about the card's sealing, it sounds more like sealing from humidity. Maybe if you are going to the Antarctic or the rain forrest of Belize, then the card might be an advantage. But if you dont go to extreme places like that, I suspect what they are talking about is more for marketing than what you would really need.

Having said that, I would still pick a Sandisk card, but that is just my personal preferrence.

Not going to be in those extremes, at least not unless I win the lottery, which I don't even play, lol....but yeah in the weather-resistant 7D I would think that the sealing doesn't really do much for the SanDisk...doing to much research because now I am looking at the Lexar 16GB 400x cards which is a pretty good bang for the buck $75ish for 16 GB but the $75ish or 32 GB with Transcend is attractive too... just not sure I can pull the trigger on transcend

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even if they were...that does not mean you can take them for a swim.

No swimming :D


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Jan 23, 2011 13:26 |  #5

They are both pretty waterproof.




  
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Jan 23, 2011 13:37 |  #6

7D is not entirely "weather sealed". It had improved seals for better "weather/dust resistance" than the xxD models, and equal to or a step up from the 5DII. I don't think any camera with a built in, pop up flash can be all that thoroughly sealed, but Canon claims it's as well sealed as the 5DII, which doesn't have a built in flash.

Even the 1D series aren't completely weather sealed. A few years ago at a rainy super bowl Canon went through all their loaner cameras because the pro shooters they were there to support were killing off their cameras left and right. The reason was when switching out memory cards water was getting inside the compartment and shorting out the cameras.

I've been caught in a downpour with a pair of 30D (w/lenses and 550EX mounted), turned everything off and removed the batteries and memory cards (being careful not to get any more water inside), dried things out throroughly over a couple days and everything still works fine today.

"Weather resistance" adds seals around buttons and dials, gaskets on doors and where the camera's external body panels fit together. It's not a complete seal, but will keep out a lot of dust and most moisture.... There just aren't any guarantees.

It's similar to the shutter rating. Canon claims to have tested it and found a mean failure time of 150K... But that isn't a guarantee, either. It might fail with 10K clicks or 210K clicks. Either way if it's in warranty it will probably be replaced. (They might argue excessive use if a 10 month old camera has 210K clicks on it.)

Don't fret too much about the memory cards, either. Just avoid fakes that are lower quality cards marked as if they are higher speed. Over the years I've used Lexar, Sandisk, Sony and Kodak (which were Lexar) compact flash without any problems.

I currently use twelve or fourteen 8GB cards with 7D and 5DII, about half Lexar 300X UDMA and half Sandisk 60MB/sec UDMA. I bet the Transcend are about equal and am looking at some Transcend cards myself to give them a try. I'll stick with using 8GB in 7D, since they give me a bit over 200 RAW files apiece. I try not to put all my eggs in one basket with too large cards. I'd like to have a few larger cards to use with 5DII, in particular.

B&H Photo and Amazon both have Transcend 400X UDMA 16GB CF for about $60. The Newegg price looks good, but if they are sold out...

I bet a lot of memory cards are actually made by just two or three or four manufacturers, then relabeled with different brand names. For example, I know that at one time Kodak cards were actually made by Lexar. Don't know if they still are.

All compact flash cards themselves are reasonably "weather resistant", by design. The solid state memory chips are encapsulated within plastic, which pretty well seals it up. I've heard of some going through the laundry in someone's pocket and coming out fine... But I sure wouldn't recommend that.

The weak point of Compact Flash are the pins and sockets. Occasionally pins in the camera get bent or even broken off inside the card's socket. Not all the pins are actually used, so sometimes this doesn't matter. But more often than not it is a problem. Knock on wood... I've never had a problem with CF pins on any camera, and sometimes I do a dozen or more swaps during a shooting day. I'm careful to insert the card squarely and never force it. I have an Expresscard memory reader for my laptop that's a little fussy fitting a card in... But that's just the design of the reader. (On the other hand, it's damned fast.... 54MP/sec.)


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