Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
Thread started 25 Jan 2011 (Tuesday) 21:48
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Would a CPL or UV filter improve this shot

 
musashi
Senior Member
795 posts
Joined Jul 2010
Location: Winchester, CA / San Diego, CA / North Hollywood, CA
     
Jan 25, 2011 21:48 |  #1

Im talking about the white'ish/blue'ish tint (haze?) in the not so distant mountain.

Would using a cpl or uv filter (maybe using both?) will improve this.

Thank you for looking and advising.

Edit: Dont know if its needed but Converted in DPP and put on Daylight WB and Landscape mode, sharpness 5, everything else is 0.


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.”

--==Gear List & Feedback==--

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
hollis_f
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
10,649 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 85
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Sussex, UK
     
Jan 26, 2011 05:47 |  #2

Nope, neither of them would make any difference. The white sky is caused by scattering of sunlight by water and pollutants in the atmosphere. Looking towards the horizon you're looking through a thicker layer of the atmosphere - which is why the effect is more pronounced than at the zenith.


Frank Hollis - Retired mass spectroscopist
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll complain about the withdrawal of his free fish entitlement.
Gear Website (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
musashi
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
795 posts
Joined Jul 2010
Location: Winchester, CA / San Diego, CA / North Hollywood, CA
     
Jan 26, 2011 07:05 |  #3

^^^ im less worried about the white sky. Im asking about the 2nd line of mountains in the pic. Before i converted this the whole mountain kinda has a white'ish tint to it. It just turns blue when i up the saturation even by a little bit.


“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.”

--==Gear List & Feedback==--

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sapearl
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
16,946 posts
Gallery: 243 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 2873
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
     
Jan 26, 2011 07:25 |  #4

Hi Musashi - owing to the type/angle of lighting and the time of day, the exposure is a bit challenging.

IMO I feel that the second line of mountains would actually benefit from slightly less saturation with the associated addition of blue. Visually, as the human eye looks off towards the horizon, the landscape does tend to lighten up as you look off into the distance. This helps to enhance the sense of depth. If you look at the museum exhibits of many master painters you will see examples of this in their work. I try to use this technique in most of my landscape work when appropriate.

A lighter mountain range would also benefit the two men in the photo by setting off their heads better. Right now their black hair tends to merge with the darker landscape. - Stu


GEAR LIST
MY WEBSITE (external link)- MY GALLERIES (external link)- MY BLOG (external link)
Artists Archives of the Western Reserve (external link) - Board

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SkipD
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
20,476 posts
Likes: 165
Joined Dec 2002
Location: Southeastern WI, USA
     
Jan 26, 2011 08:45 |  #5

I think there's another factor. The nearby mountains - as well as the two men in the foreground - are back-lit. Thus, there are significant shadows on the camera side of them. The mountains in the distant background appear to be more front-lit than the nearby mountains and thus they appear lighter.

On a somewhat different note - if a flash or reflectors had been used to put more light on the front of the two men, there would be more contrast between them and the mountains immediately behind them.

Polarizing or UV filters could not have improved the lighting.

Different exposure settings might have made noticeable changes in the overall image.


Skip Douglas
A few cameras and over 50 years behind them .....
..... but still learning all the time.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sapearl
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
16,946 posts
Gallery: 243 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 2873
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
     
Jan 26, 2011 08:50 |  #6

SkipD wrote in post #11717220 (external link)
I think there's another factor. The nearby mountains - as well as the two men in the foreground - are back-lit. Thus, there are significant shadows on the camera side of them. The mountains in the distant background appear to be more front-lit than the nearby mountains and thus they appear lighter.......

Good observation Skip - I'd overlooked that. Getting better lighting for that component of the image is almost more a sense of timing than anything else ;).


GEAR LIST
MY WEBSITE (external link)- MY GALLERIES (external link)- MY BLOG (external link)
Artists Archives of the Western Reserve (external link) - Board

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
musashi
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
795 posts
Joined Jul 2010
Location: Winchester, CA / San Diego, CA / North Hollywood, CA
     
Jan 26, 2011 10:19 |  #7

Thanks Stu and Skip! It was'nt a planned shoot, we were coming down from a ski resort and just decided to stop the car when we had a nice background. It was actually mid-day or almost mid-day, I had my flash set to manual, tv mode to 1/250, then -2/3 ec, but couldn't really overpower the sun. I tried. lol. Trial and error, and more practice is the fastest way for me to learn. Thanks for advising, I was really looking to get a cpl for my 17-55, I just thought i'd ask the question if its gonna help this kinda shot.


“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.”

--==Gear List & Feedback==--

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sapearl
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
16,946 posts
Gallery: 243 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 2873
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
     
Jan 26, 2011 12:01 |  #8

You're welcome Musashi :D.

Certainly nothing wrong with this as a "grab shot." You may want to achieve more with it technically, but it's often the subject matter and emotion that hold more meaning and tweak our memories of the good times ;).


GEAR LIST
MY WEBSITE (external link)- MY GALLERIES (external link)- MY BLOG (external link)
Artists Archives of the Western Reserve (external link) - Board

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,141 views & 0 likes for this thread, 4 members have posted to it.
Would a CPL or UV filter improve this shot
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
1525 guests, 180 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.