FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop"  57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Jan 27, 2011 03:06 | #1 Just three arrivals at the local airstrip this afternoon (1/26)  Aviat A-1C Husky (light getting warmer)  Piper Meridian (light now much warmer and going away quickly...)  Champion: 1DMkIII + 500mm f/4L IS + 1.4X TC .. 1/180 @ f/11 ISO 100 Husky + Meridian: 1DMkIV + 300mm f/2.8L IS .. 1/125 @ f/7.1 ISO 100 Enjoy!  Jay
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Jan 27, 2011 14:22 | #2 I am curious, Jay. I am not an aircraft photographer, but why would you clip the wings (or crop them out) in your photographs?
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FlyingPhotog THREAD STARTER Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Jan 27, 2011 14:44 | #3 Good Question...  Same holds true if you shoot one head on and keep the full wingspan in the frame:  A 3/4 view fits better and these are fairly easy to come by with static subjects:  The problem with shooting ground to air is that your angle off is constantly changing. You might start with a fairly head on shot:
but that will evolve into a profile shot as the aircraft comes closer. My creative eye prefers the 3/4 shot and I like to show as much detail as possible so I try to hold the nose toward the side of the frame to which the plane is flying and let it fit the box by itself:
Psychologically though, we know the wings are there... Actually, the framing on #3 above is a little awkward and I probably should have let it come in a tad closer and frame it inside the flaps but I liked how the light showed off the outboard edge of the left flap. Good edge definition... There is not right or wrong way to do it, it's just my way of trying to get a tubular object to fit a rectangular space. Jay
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Jan 27, 2011 15:08 | #4 Ahhh, thanks for that. I've always tried to get the full thing in...and yes, lots of dead space around it all...  
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ryanapem Senior Member  664 posts Joined Oct 2009 Location: Washington More info | Jan 27, 2011 17:28 | #5 That's a great explanation Jay. Ya know, I've never put that much thought into it but it seems whenever I frame that's what looks the best. In general I find, if you are going to cut one, cut both. I never like the looks of one wing cut off and the other all there, or one stab trimmed and the other fully visible. I guess that's another one of those things that there is a great reason for if I thought about it. Symmetry I guess? -Ryan
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clearedirect Junior Member 21 posts Joined Jan 2011 Location: Reno, NV More info | Jan 27, 2011 17:36 | #6 nice shots! especially the CJ shots. 40D | 20D | 100-400L | 17-40L
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Ramrod Senior Member 783 posts Joined Dec 2008 More info | Very nice, and good explanation of why it's acceptable to crop wings out sometimes.
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Jan 27, 2011 18:13 | #8 THIS discussion is why I like POTN... Thanks!
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Aerophile Senior Member  404 posts Likes: 3 Joined Oct 2010 Location: Central Texas More info | Jan 27, 2011 18:52 | #9 excellent light on these mhm2526 wrote in post #11727393  THIS discussion is why I like POTN... Thanks! ditto. Denton
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Mike53545 Senior Member  874 posts Likes: 18 Joined Feb 2009 Location: Wisconsin More info | Jan 27, 2011 19:57 | #10 mhm2526 wrote in post #11727393 THIS discussion is why I like POTN... Thanks! I was thinking the same thing!!! Great Question and a great answer!! Couple of Canons, and a couple L's
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FlyingPhotog THREAD STARTER Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Jan 27, 2011 19:58 | #11 Glad this has stirred up some discussion... Jay
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altitude604 Goldmember  1,665 posts Likes: 10 Joined Nov 2009 Location: Cape Breton, Nova Scotia More info | Jan 28, 2011 16:30 | #12 Very nice explanation! Erik - Three Miles Final
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Jan 28, 2011 17:57 | #13 How I like to put it is, with the 500 you take what you can get. 7D, 5D MKIII, 17-40 f/4L, 24-70 f/2.8L, 70-200 f/2.8L IS, 300 f/2.8L IS, 500 f/4L IS, 1.4xII, 2.0xII
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Chippy569 Goldmember  1,851 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN More info | Jan 28, 2011 18:07 | #14 Wing-cutting is like hair-cutting or car bumper-cutting -- if you're going to, go all out with it! If you only cut one wing tip just a slight bit, it looks like a mistake. If you cut both wings in a way that makes the composition nicer, then it looks intentional. Intentional looks good, mistake does not. Gear List
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spectre Senior Member  825 posts Joined Jan 2007 Location: Escondido, CA More info | Jan 29, 2011 02:37 | #15 adamsti wrote in post #11733769 How I like to put it is, with the 500 you take what you can get.  Many times wings get clipped as they get closer, especially at the pylons!!I am not sure I will have to worry about the burden of a 500 any time in the near future Todd M. Allen TacAir Photography
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